Oops, thanks. I'll make sure the next Registrar report accounts for
zombies being transferred. I think everyone but Rance collected their
zombies.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 20:11, Kerim Aydin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I thought we'd done this before, quite recently in fact (unless I'm
> misunderstanding the question!).  CFJs 3693-3694 found that a zombie CAN be
> transferred as the result of an auction, under the current rules.
>
> The case arguments are kind of spread in Discussion, but here's a summary:
>
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 9:04 PM, twg wrote:
>  >  I CFJ: "It is generally IMPOSSIBLE for a zombie to be transferred to the
>  > winner of a lot in a zombie auction."
>
> Caller's Arguments:
> Flipping the zombie master switch is Secured-2, as per the first sentence
> of R2532. "Transferring" a zombie as the result of an auction is defined in
> Rule 1885 (also power-2) as a flip of the master switch, however there's
> nothing there that explicitly says that the Auctioneer CAN make the
> transfer/flip (i.e. there's nothing that says that Agora CAN flip the
> switch as the result of the auction). If the auctioneer CANNOT, then my
> announcement above terminated the auction as per R2552.
>
>
> Judgement (D. Margaux, Jan 20, 2019):
>  > I judge this CFJ FALSE for the reasons I have previously given
>  > regarding this CFJ and CFJ 3693.
>
> [There's a prolonged discussion captured in the Court Gazette of the time,
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2019-January/012742.html
> with lots of gratuitous arguments.  But I I think "the arguments" D. Margaux
> refers to in eir actual judgement are the following:]
>
> The CFJ is FALSE, because a necessary implication of the Rules is that
> Agora CAN transfer a zombie pursuant to a properly initiated Rule 1885
> zombie auction.
>
> Under Rule 2545 (power=2), “An Auction is a way for entities to give
> away items in exchange for a currency.”  By necessarily implication,
> if a Rule with high enough power authorizes some player to initiate an
> auction with a particular item as a lot, then that Rule also
> necessarily authorizes that player to initiate a process that would
> “give away [that] item[] in exchange for a currency.”  That’s what an
> auction _is_ under the Rules.
>
> Under Rule 1885 (power=2), at the start of the month, “the Registrar
> CAN put [a] zombie [that meets certain conditions] (along with any
> other zombies that fulfill the same conditions) up for auction.”  By
> necessary implication, read in conjunction with Rule 2545, that means
> that a zombie can be transferred pursuant to that auction. Otherwise
> it wouldn’t be an auction at all—a way of transferring an item for
> currency. It would be something else entirely.
>
> This interpretation is consistent with the best interests of the game
> and ordinary language. There’s no reason to adopt a contrary
> interpretation, which would break auctions and zombies.
>
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