On 5/21/2020 6:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>>> WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as >>>> described. >>>> >>>> OR >>>> >>>> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL act as described. >>>> >>>> OR EVEN >>>> >>>> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL so act. >>> >>> I would much prefer to just replace all of the instances where we need >>> to do this with "CAN and SHALL". It's three words. It's manageable and >>> reads nicer to me. >> >> Yes on its own "CAN and SHALL" is definitely better than "WILL" - needs to >> include all the limits of the original to count. > > Manifesto: > > The timely fashion provision is incorporated by operation of law, > according to Rule 1023. I see no reason why we cannot expand that to > cover anything we need it to cover. Certainly, I agree that "CAN, and > in a timely fashion SHALL," is an infernal mess of a phrase that must > be purged from the ruleset with holy fire. I maintain, however, that > "CAN and SHALL" is much more sensible and elegant than "WILL", and > also has the advantage of preserving the pure symmetry of the Eight > Standard Modals (which is what I've been calling them in my head for > years). All details can and should be resolved by appropriate changes > to Rule 1023.
You're forgetting that we're also including the "by announcement" bit in the shortening. I hold that such a substitution is a reasonable compromise that shortens the text while keeping to the hidebound requirement that we specify a method.
