On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: >>> A player SHALL NOT cast a ballot or induce another person to do so in a >>> way primarily intended to affect popularity. Doing so is the Class-2 >>> Crime of Vote Manipulation. >> >> Notice of honour >> -1 Aris, for starting us down the road to criminalizing intent with that >> awful forbidden arts thing, and continuing the criminalization of intent >> by proposing penalties for the basic free act of voting. >> +1 D. Margaux, for being a generally good person. > > I retract Vote Manipulation. > > The forbidden arts thing doesn't even consider intent! Grumbles. This > one *does* consider intent though, and that's a fair argument against > it. I maintain that requiring people to at least *hide* what they're > doing could make it more interesting. Still, since it's you, and you > care this much, I'll retract the proposal. Next time maybe ask before > taking the honor? "Aris, I *really* think this is a bad idea", coming > from you, would have had the same effect.
You're absolutely right. I've been too snippy lately. Maybe a little triggered this week with thoughts about "criminalization" of stuff. No excuse, you were clearly working in good faith there, I'm sorry Aris. And don't worry, your tone came across as mildly annoyed. :) [ As a side note, I've noticed recently there's a bit of divergence about how people treat the importance of Notices of Honour. I've mostly thought of NoHs as "expressing mild annoyance" rather than anything more serious (though sometimes I mis-judge the tone in the justification). But the term "Honour" makes it sound like something more worth defending and fighting about so it comes across as "escalation" rather than "let's diffuse things by blowing off steam in a silly honour fight"? Not sure it's anything that needs "fixing" but I'll keep that in mind, definitely... ]
