we can be a little overly rude to people who misinterpret the rules or forget about a rule or two but if anyone actually tries to tell you they've never made a similar mistake or that they actually understand and remember all the rules, they are lying.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:41 PM Rebecca <[email protected]> wrote: > Welcome lucidiot as well. We have treated some new players poorly in the > past (we were awful to Cuddlebeam when e first joined) but I'd like to > think we are relatively welcoming. Expectations might be high (maybe too > high) for someone like PSS who holds like a million offices. I think what > would be most useful to say and understand is that Agora is multifaceted > enough that you can put in as much or as little effort as you like. You can > hold a million offices and try hard to win every subgame, or you can just > vote on proposals and judge a CFJ or two, or you can take no game actions > at all and just offer your opinions/discuss things and those are all valid > ways to play. > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Rebecca <[email protected]> wrote: > >> * What should be on the main page? [it's pretty outdated now, and I feel >> like it could use a facelift and some new copy] >> The Ruleset should have more prominent links and be updated to remove >> outdated info and with the current name of the Rulekeepor. "As of May 2017" >> should obviously be updated periodically to the current month. G. should >> fix the gaps in eir CFJ database and I have pledged to give em all my >> assets if e does so, so that's pretty cool. >> * What kinds of tips should go on a New Player page? >> I honestly think not much, maybe a few more tips on the technical side of >> things (mailing lists are an old technology that it is more likely to not >> be understood than was the case a long time ago). Some appealing events >> from our history, maybe >> * What online resources do you use the most? >> The ruleset I always use from the weblink, sometimes CFJ databases, and I >> really like and often read Falsifian's reportor reports: we really need to >> start compensating em with game assets for those reports/ >> * What resources do you wish were online? >> Updated stuff for every office. HOWEVER i have no idea how to edit a >> website or make my own office page or update it, so it's hypocritical from >> me I guess. >> * How do you access Agora? [your email's web client, a desktop client, >> phone client] >> gmail.com which is kind of bad. >> * Any tips or tricks that you use on the devices/software that you >> access Agora through that you find indispensable? >> Gmail's search function is excellent and usually dispenses with the need >> to use the archives for me. >> * Anything else that you think would help improve the web content? >> Idk >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:16 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 6/13/20 11:43 PM, lucidiot via agora-discussion wrote: >>> > Hello there! First time posting here! >>> >>> Welcome! >>> >>> >>> > On Sunday 14 June 2020 03:27, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> >> Some questions to help me plan some improvements to the web content. >>> >> >>> >> * What should be on the main page? [it's pretty outdated now, and I >>> feel >>> >> like it could use a facelift and some new copy] >>> > Falsifian's weekly reports have been very helpful to keep up on the >>> general state of the game (thank you so much!) and sometimes bring >>> interpretations of the discussions that I had not understood while >>> binge-reading through all the emails. >>> > >>> > The site could turn into a blog and show those reports (maybe along >>> other 'articles' like theses or anything Agorans want to publish?), making >>> the homepage get updated regularly and allowing new visitors to see that >>> the game is still quite active and the type of play to expect. >>> >>> >>> +1 on keeping it updated; when I was looking at before joining, I >>> thought "oh no, is this dead?", at least until looking at the public >>> archives. >>> >>> >>> >> * What kinds of tips should go on a New Player page? >>> > I haven't been sending anything on the lists for a while because I do >>> not feel confident at all! There is a lot to learn and a lot of history to >>> uncover, and archives, sites, repos are quite scattered. >>> >>> >>> There's no reason to be scared of sending mail to the lists; most people >>> try to be as forgiving as reasonable, especially for new players :). >>> That was my experience, at least. >>> >>> Also, we try to keep a lot of the code and reports on the AgoraNomic >>> Github org [0]. >>> >>> >>> > This just leads me to suggest to have reminders in this page that it >>> is okay to start small, to ask questions, that the expectations are lower >>> than they seem to be, or that everyone is always friendly and welcoming >>> (even during hard times); those are what I have been trying to tell myself >>> to convince myself to reply, but reading them from someone else would >>> definitely help. >>> > >>> > The page could also include a reference to a netiquette, or common >>> practices for posting such as the DIS/BUS/OFF prefixes, referencing links >>> with annotations like [0]. I had to explain what bottom-posting means to >>> someone yesterday, on an unrelated project. >>> >>> >>> The mailing lists should be adding the prefixes automatically, so long >>> as you send it to the right list's email address. >>> >>> >>> >> * What online resources do you use the most? >>> > Since it is linked on the homepage, I had used the public archives at >>> mail-archive.com quite a lot to get an overview of the game before >>> subscribing to the lists. >>> > >>> > I no longer use this as I just get the emails, but I regularly use >>> Gaelan's ruleset page [0]. It shows HTTP 502 errors half of the time, and >>> right now it has HTTP 500, possibly due to recent changes in the FLR, but I >>> still like it since it makes browsing the rules easier with hyperlinks on >>> key concepts. That is a very welcome thing when you want to learn the rules! >>> >>> >>> I've been considering rewriting the ruleset generation for a while, and >>> that might permit a functional HTML ruleset viewer. >>> >>> >>> > - A glossary of acronyms; I am still unsure about what CotC means, and >>> it took me a while to understand NttPF and TTttPF >>> >>> >>> Yes, we all have a chronic problem of not sending things to the public >>> forum. I learned about all the acronyms from Murphy's old site [1], >>> which is linked on the homepage. "CotC" stands for "Clerk of the >>> Courts", and is an unofficial position that G. takes on in addition to >>> eir role as Arbitor. >>> >>> >>> >> * Anything else that you think would help improve the web content? >>> > Some more generic thoughts: the website could probably become more >>> attractive by having more graphics. ASCII art is cool, and I generally >>> find the various reports to be interesting, but a benefit of the web is >>> it's not just plaintext. >>> > >>> > This might require some effort, but a graph of the current economy >>> showing the volume of currency exchanges, or one with the volumes of mails >>> exchanged on each list over time would look nice. >>> > Or a hall of fame showing all the winners on golden plates. >>> > Or a very corporate-looking "sub-site" for the Dragon Corporation. The >>> Startup Generator [1] could be an inspiration. >>> >>> >>> Ooh I like the idea of a website for the Dragon Corporation... >>> >>> >>> [0]: http://github.com/AgoraNomic/ >>> >>> [1]: http://zenith.homelinux.net/agora_acronyms.php >>> >>> -- >>> Jason Cobb >>> >>> >> >> -- >> From R. Lee >> > > > -- > From R. Lee > -- >From R. Lee
