Evidence:
478/38, in part: {
A public message is a message sent via a public forum, or sent to all players
and containing a clear designation of intent to be public. A rule can also
designate that a part of one public message is considered a public message in
its own right. To "publish" or "announce" something is to send a public message
whose body contains that thing. To do something "publicly" is to do that thing
within a public message.
Where the rules define an action that a person CAN perform "by announcement",
that person performs that action by unambiguously and clearly specifying the
action and announcing that e performs it. Any action performed by sending a
message is performed at the time date-stamped on that message. Actions in
messages (including sub-messages) are performed in the order they appear in the
message, unless otherwise specified.
}
The message in question attempted to use the "sent to all players and
containing a clear designation of intent to be public" clause to send a public
message via DIS. Of course, for this to work, the message actually has to have
been sent to all players. This isn't clearly the case; Tyler, a current player,
does not appear in the public member list for DIS. While it's possible that e
is one of the 5 non-public subscribers, or e subscribed using a different email
address from the one known to the Registrar, this seems unlikely. Performing an
action by announcement requires a player "unambiguously and clearly […]
announcing that e performs it". Because "announce" means "send a public
message", and it's not at all clear this message was public, ATMunn's action
was not unambiguously announced. Therefore, it doesn't meet the standard for a
by-announcement action.
(If Tyler were subscribed to DIS, this becomes iffier; G. would like that still
not to count, and needing to check who's subscribed to DIS arguably makes it
ambiguous enough. Nevertheless, I'll leave that issue for a future judge to
decide iff it comes up.)
Treasuror reports show The Bank as having no other assets, and there have been
no other recent transactions involving The Bank.
I rule FALSE.
Gaelan
> On Oct 9, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The below CFJ is 3886. I assign it to Gaelan.
>
> status:
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffaculty.washington.edu%2Fkerim%2Fnomic%2Fcases%2F%233886&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9c648daa17a1437dfde608d875db35a1%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C1%7C637388931641942277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=i4tHuVnX6Pl6r1NCJftv%2BU4f4fH0snGy%2FNthhewxeOI%3D&reserved=0
>
> =============================== CFJ 3886 ===============================
>
> The Bank currently owns 1 coin.
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> Caller: ATMunn
>
> Judge: Gaelan
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> History:
>
> Called by ATMunn: 09 Oct 2020 08:12:36
> Assigned to Gaelan: [now]
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> Caller's Evidence:
>
> (from
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.agoranomic.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Fprivate%2Fagora-discussion%2F2020-October%2F060335.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9c648daa17a1437dfde608d875db35a1%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C1%7C637388931641942277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=TUIFaZeBaBwdWZ%2FnxYPIHINac8ga1LcK5O2JXHbWdg0%3D&reserved=0)
>
> On 10/8/2020 9:21 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I intend for this message to be a public message.
>>
>> I transfer 1 coin to the contract known as The Bank.
>>
>
>
> Caller's Arguments:
>
> Arguments FOR: Though the message was not sent to a public forum, it was
> almost certainly sent to all players, and it contained a clear designation
> of intent to be public.
>
> Arguments AGAINST: It may be hard to prove that all players are subscribed
> to the agora-discussion list. Additionally, since the list's Publicity is
> Discussion, it would logically follow that it is *only* for discussion and
> no public messages can be sent.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Gratuitous Arguments by Gaelan:
>
> We discussed this in August, and when I checked, there was one player who
> was not subscribed to DIS. (So this would be ineffective, because while
> there's an assumption that everyone gets messages sent to public fora, for
> something like this you need to actually meet the standard of sending to
> all players.)
>
> ==========================================================================
>
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