" Everyone who can understand this sentence is a person. Someone who used to be able to understand the sentence is also still considered a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other entities are persons."
Without needing to get into full natural language processing, it's not impossible for a bot to be made to accept that exact sentence as input and compute what it means. Chinese Room philosophical arguments aside, I'm not sure that bots should be allowed to be people, but I do think that we might need something better than just "understand". On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:51 AM Aris Merchant < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello Quazie! It's been a while. Good to hear from you and I hope > things are going well. > > -Aris > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 7:46 PM Quazie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This does seem to make it harder to make my cat a person > > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 18:38 Aris Merchant < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I float the following protos. These are intended to enable cleaner, > >> simpler personhood determinations by relying on our intuitive > >> definitions of what constitutes a person. They should maintain > >> reasonable standards, such as keeping GPT and corporate persons out, > >> while being slightly more inclusive overall. In particular, I believe > >> that CFJ 3877 would no longer necessarily hold under these new rules, > >> which I consider a good thing. > >> > >> These two protos are intended to be alternative ways of accomplishing > >> the same thing; I will submit one, depending on popularity and my own > >> feelings after discussion. nix has suggested allowing corporate > >> personhood, but only if none of the individuals involved want to play > >> independently. This seems both safe and like a simple next step. > >> Depending on discussion, that may be incorporated with one of these or > >> submitted as a standalone proposal. I haven't really thought about how > >> to integrate it with these yet though. > >> > >> -Aris > >> > >> --- > >> Title: Everyone is a Person > >> Adoption index: 3.0 > >> Author: Aris > >> Co-authors: nix, G., Jason, ATMunn > >> > >> > >> Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > >> > >> Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of > >> freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and > >> ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other > >> entities are persons. > >> > >> with: > >> > >> Everyone who can understand this sentence is a person. Someone who > >> used to be able to understand the sentence is also still considered > >> a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other entities are > >> persons. > >> > >> --- > >> Title: Natural Personhood > >> Adoption index: 3.0 > >> Author: Aris > >> Co-authors: nix, G., Jason, ATMunn > >> > >> Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by replacing: > >> > >> Any entity that is or ever was an organism generally capable of > >> freely originating and communicating independent thoughts and > >> ideas is a person. Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, no other > >> entities are persons. > >> > >> with: > >> Every natural person is an Agoran person (or simply person). A former > >> natural person is also still considered an Agoran person. Rules to the > >> contrary notwithstanding, no other entities are Agoran persons. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Agora mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flistserver.tue.nl%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fagora&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ced6abd078af64fc025d408d877222be5%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C0%7C637390335929460683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=IfpCE1pg54gweBzg2y4u0hXcAow8G1K39Vg0oMPOWSk%3D&reserved=0 > _______________________________________________ > Agora mailing list > [email protected] > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flistserver.tue.nl%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fagora&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ced6abd078af64fc025d408d877222be5%7Ccc7df24760ce4a0f9d75704cf60efc64%7C1%7C0%7C637390335929460683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=IfpCE1pg54gweBzg2y4u0hXcAow8G1K39Vg0oMPOWSk%3D&reserved=0 >
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