----- Original Message -----
From: "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: Build.xml standardization
> Sam Ruby wrote:
> >
> > Daniel Rall wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 on no build.{sh,bat} files...users should install Ant and use the
> > > `ant` command.
> >
> > For that to work, Ant has to maintain backwards compatibility (which
they
> > have been pretty good about lately), and projects can't step up to the
> > latest features until it has been released.
> >
> > Peter changed the jar task to accept a "file" attribute, deprecated
> > "jarfile", and then proceeded to check in an updated ant.jar into the
> > avalon projects.
>
> I agree on this one. Part of build standardization also entails the
> build tool being used more like a tool. Once we work through this
> piece, there won't be as great a need. Ant has had a stable task
structure,
> almost everything you need is included. If there is a new feature that
> a project absoposolutely (contraction of absolutely and positively--not a
> real word) needs a new feature, then they should temporarily have the new
> task code in their repository and declare it like any third party taskdef.
>
> > - Sam Ruby
> >
> > P.S. From personal experience, you can say that nobody should check in
Ant
> > jars or have build.{sh,bat} files, but people will check them in anyway.
> > Even "-1"'s won't stop them. That's why I wrote Gump. I have a single
> > build script which can build any project with the collection of jars
that I
> > specify. The fact that it produces nags that some people find helpful
is
> > just a fortunate byproduct . ;-)
> >
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