On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 04:17, Peter Donald wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:24, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > Finally, I do believe that even with separate project descriptors, the
> > current gump approach can scale - if more people contribute patches to
> > projects that they care about and become committers themselves.  As this is
> > now happening, I was wondering if it was time to revisit
> >
> >    http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/faq.html#11
> 
> Well I would be happy to help maintain the existing projects and definetly 
> interested in seeing something like this spread so that the developers using 
> it. 
> 
> I think the current gump approach can scale for a while longer. However note 
> I just chose not to gumpify another project because I knew I would be 
> maintaining it and couldn't be bothered ;)

I honestly think this is a problem. The vast majority of projects being
built by Gump have not contributed anything to help make the Gump runs
easier. I see patches emanating from Jakarta projects but haven't many
and I don't recall seeing any patches from projects outside of Jakarta.

> However I see another reason for allowing the GUMP descriptors to be stored 
> in CVS modules. Basically it makes it much easier for users to participate in 
> the GUMP action.

+1

I think a simple mechanism of pushing these into a location for Gump
would be best. When the project is sure the descriptor is correct then
it can be shuttled off to Gump.

> All they have to do is alter their descriptor and viola - 
> next run they check their results to see if it all works as they expect. This 
> empowers gumps "clients" a lot more and I think would encourage people to 
> contribte a little more - but more importantly it would encourage them to 
> learn about gump more which will lead to more widespread use of it.

+1

> If people don't want to maintain their own descriptors then no problem wioth 
> that either - gump can continue to maintain them. But for the others I think 
> it woul dbe great.

+1

This is what is going to happen with the Turbine projects, and I hope
the Turbine projects can be an example of how to cooperate with Gump in
a fashion that alleviates many of the current errors in the flow and
makes overall maintenance a project-centric issue.
 
> But if you want to propose this as a top level project I will definetly 
> support it and definelty help you maintain the project descriptors at least.
>
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> Cheers,
> 
> Pete
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