Exactly why I keep mentioning it!

Kevin

Woodland, Mark wrote:
> Its prolly been hotwired.
> Imagine a racecar on its roof/cage (nah, can't happen).
> Inertia switch should kill the pump, (but its been hotwired)
> Engine quits, which should kill the pump,
> But as long as the ignition switch is hot, it just keeps pumping race fuel, 
> out of wherever the system as cracked open,
> Over whatever hot or flaming bits happen to be around
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Redden
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:00 PM
> To: Brian Shorey
> Cc: Richard C. Wagner; Alfa Digest; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: Now I am Puzzled
>
> Definitely wrong! :-)
>
> Kevin
>
> Brian Shorey wrote:
>   
>> Our LeMons Milano fuel pump runs as soon as the key is activated, it has
>>     
> nothing to do with the AFM flap position.  Kevin Redden insists it's wrong,
> and he's probably correct, but it all works, so it's low on our priority
> list.
>   
>> bs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Richard C. Wagner <[email protected]>
>> To: Alfa Digest <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:20:07 PM
>> Subject: [alfa] Re: Now I am Puzzled
>>
>> Joe asked:
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> Are you sure that the fuel pump runs when the key is first turned
>>> on? I'm not intimately familiar with Spiders, but I've never known
>>> an L-Jet system to run the fuel pump unless the engine is running or
>>> the key is in the Start position.
>>>
>>>       
>> And Jeff responded:
>>
>>
>>     
>>>> Yes, absolutely.
>>>>
>>>> It will run for a second or less to pressurize the system when the key
>>>> is first turned on.
>>>>
>>>>         
>> That hasn't been my experience with the L-Jetronic system on my GTV6.  On my
>>     
> car, the pump runs when the starter is energized, and when the ignition is on
> and the flap of the airflow meter is opened.  It never runs when the engine is
> stopped and the key is simply turned to the "on" position.  Based on Tess'
> description, it sounds to me like her pump is running with the starter
> energized, and then stopping when she releases the key.  I don't have a Spider
> wiring diagram here, but it might be productive to check and see if the pump
> is powered by two separate, fused circuits; two separate switching circuits to
> the relay (one from the starter switch, one from the ECU); and how the fuel
> pump inertial switch is wired in (it could be tripped).   I've heard many
> times that the Spider doesn't use the massflow-based switch to turn on the
> pump, and instead uses the flywheel sensors.  So the sensors could also be a
> culprit.
>   
>> Tess, I'd suggest this test:  have a friend connect a 12-volt test light to
>>     
> the power terminals of the fuel pump, then have him/her watch as you crank the
> engine.  The light should come on with cranking and stay on until the engine
> comes to a stop.  If the light comes on with cranking and then goes off as
> soon as the starter stops, there is a problem in some part of the circuitry
> that I've mentioned.
>   
>> Rich Wagner
>> Montrose, CO, USA
>> '82 GTV6 --
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