Sure, it's not right, but if it's been hotwired it came to us this way (not in 'race car' form), and there is no obvious sign of jumpers bypassing things.
bs ________________________________ From: "Woodland, Mark" <[email protected]> To: Kevin Redden <[email protected]>; Brian Shorey <[email protected]> Cc: Richard C. Wagner <[email protected]>; Alfa Digest <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:07:50 PM Subject: RE: [alfa] Re: Now I am Puzzled Its prolly been hotwired. Imagine a racecar on its roof/cage (nah, can't happen). Inertia switch should kill the pump, (but its been hotwired) Engine quits, which should kill the pump, But as long as the ignition switch is hot, it just keeps pumping race fuel, out of wherever the system as cracked open, Over whatever hot or flaming bits happen to be around -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Redden Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:00 PM To: Brian Shorey Cc: Richard C. Wagner; Alfa Digest; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: Now I am Puzzled Definitely wrong! :-) Kevin Brian Shorey wrote: > Our LeMons Milano fuel pump runs as soon as the key is activated, it has nothing to do with the AFM flap position. Kevin Redden insists it's wrong, and he's probably correct, but it all works, so it's low on our priority list. > > bs > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Richard C. Wagner <[email protected]> > To: Alfa Digest <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:20:07 PM > Subject: [alfa] Re: Now I am Puzzled > > Joe asked: > > >> Jeff, >> >> Are you sure that the fuel pump runs when the key is first turned >> on? I'm not intimately familiar with Spiders, but I've never known >> an L-Jet system to run the fuel pump unless the engine is running or >> the key is in the Start position. >> > > > And Jeff responded: > > >>> Yes, absolutely. >>> >>> It will run for a second or less to pressurize the system when the key >>> is first turned on. >>> > > > That hasn't been my experience with the L-Jetronic system on my GTV6. On my car, the pump runs when the starter is energized, and when the ignition is on and the flap of the airflow meter is opened. It never runs when the engine is stopped and the key is simply turned to the "on" position. Based on Tess' description, it sounds to me like her pump is running with the starter energized, and then stopping when she releases the key. I don't have a Spider wiring diagram here, but it might be productive to check and see if the pump is powered by two separate, fused circuits; two separate switching circuits to the relay (one from the starter switch, one from the ECU); and how the fuel pump inertial switch is wired in (it could be tripped). I've heard many times that the Spider doesn't use the massflow-based switch to turn on the pump, and instead uses the flywheel sensors. So the sensors could also be a culprit. > > Tess, I'd suggest this test: have a friend connect a 12-volt test light to the power terminals of the fuel pump, then have him/her watch as you crank the engine. The light should come on with cranking and stay on until the engine comes to a stop. If the light comes on with cranking and then goes off as soon as the starter stops, there is a problem in some part of the circuitry that I've mentioned. > > > Rich Wagner > Montrose, CO, USA > '82 GTV6 -- > to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi > or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] > -- > to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi > or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] ----------------------------------------------------------- This message contains confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of DENTSPLY INTERNATIONAL INC.. -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]
