If you get the warning lights (for brake and brake level both red) when depressing the brake pedal, a likely problem is the brake switch relay. Is is located in the engine bay behind the false firewall near where the main wiring harness comes through. It is a standard five prong relay used in the A/C circuit for many American cars. I have had this happen on each of three 164s owned. Last time I took the relay to my local Advance Auto and they matched it - no, not in their parts list but an experience salesman recognized the similarity. He disappeared in the parts rack and emerged a few minutes later with the matching "A/C" relay.

Hope this helps,

Don

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [alfa] 164 brake lights

My parents just called to say the brake lights on their '95 164 LS  have
stopped working.  (The bulbs that are also used as turn signals  still
function in that capacity.)  Are there wiring diagrams available  for
download anywhere?  I talked my dad through measuring resistance  across the
switch, and apparently it's normally closed, and then breaks the  circuit
when the brake pedal is released.  (Is that normal among modern  cars?)  So
it seems like the switch works, but there's no voltage being  applied to it.
(The fuse is fine.)  Is this a common  problem?

Thanks,
Joe

The brake lights once went out on our  lamented 94 164 LS.  I was surprised
they went out on both sides at the  same time.  It turns out the culprit
was a bulb had burned out in the 3rd  brake light, and replacing that bulb
miraculously fixed the outboard lights. I am no expert, but if that's the way
I had wired it, I would not  put it into a wiring diagram for all the world
to see.  Have one of your  folks step on the brake while the other checks
the 3rd light to see what it's  doing.

Good luck!

Charlie
LA, CA, USA
91 Spider
84 GTV 6
Hyundai Sonata - it's no Alfa!
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