Surely the Harley was designed by the Devil!!!  Ergo it can't have a soul...
;-) 

But I certainly agree that sould does not equal performance.  I guess one
could also argue the definition of performance.  I believe my original '79
Alfetta GTV was a performance car.  Not overendowed with power or grip, but
every aspect of that design seemed perfectly matched with the other.  My
later GTV6, while faster, never quite gelled in the same way.

It took at least 3 years of driving to begin to 'understand' the Alfetta,
and sadly most modern cars of a similar price/class will not earn that kind
of commitment from their owners.


Beatle
Oz
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ament [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2011 2:57 AM
To: 'Richard C. Wagner'; 'The Baylys'; 'Alfa Digest'
Subject: RE: [alfa] Re: Is this an Alfa? 

Nicely put Rich. My only disagreement is that soul isn't always high
performance. Thus, some trucks have soul. So does my Harley.  

Ciao,
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard C. Wagner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:03 AM
To: The Baylys; 'Alfa Digest'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: Is this an Alfa? 

Beetle wrote:

> So is it the engine or the bodywork that is the deciding factor?  Many 
> Alfas have been nothing more than an Alfa engine in someone else's 
> bodywprk, both
> by design and manufacture.   Does this relegate Alfa to being merely a
> powerplant supplier?


This dovetails nicely with Ben's comment:

> So, do the Alfa badges make it an Alfa?

And I think what I'm saying is that it's the *spirit* and *soul*  that makes
a car an Alfa.  Alfas have possessed a recognizable soul since the early
days.  I don't know if any of us could quantify it or even fully qualify it,
but when presented with a car, we might look at it and say, "That's an
Alfa."  We might even look at a car and say, "That's done just like an Alfa.

If I didn't know better, I would have thought that IS an Alfa."

I think, surely, the heart of any Alfa is its engine.  I've done engine
design for a living.  I've developed one of the only software engine design
packages available.  And every Alfa engine design I've seen, including the
flat-fours, including the V-6s, is beautiful.  The designs are well thought
out, with creative and elegant solutions to many of the problems that are
encountered when designing such a mechanism.  (Ever look at the Alfa V-6? 
It isn't a V-6.  It's a staggered straight-six.  It has balanced dynamics
and an even firing gap.  That's why it sounds like a straight-six, and
doesn't have that funny warble that other V-6s have.)  By contrast, the
Chrysler V-10 is a clumsy, inelegant design.  It's unbalanced in its base
state, and can only be balanced using active balancers that consume power. 
It has a massive valve gear that can only work up to a rather low rpm, and
so it can only generate significant power with huge displacement.  None of
that is found in Alfa's designs.  The V-10 is unworthy of bearing the Alfa
name.

I think you can find the same kind of soul in Alfa's suspension designs. 
Again, you see the smart, elegant solutions that are found in the engines. 
Alfa's original rear end designs could easily be considered pedestrian by
many.  But their light weight and lateral fixing made them high performance
designs to be sure.  Even with a solid rear axle, nothing handles like and
Alfa.  When Alfa decided to make a new suspension design, for the Alfetta,
they used a super low mass torsion bar setup for the front, and a De Dion
design for the rear that combines the best aspects of solid axle and
independent suspension together in one package.  There is a definite soul in
Alfa's suspension designs, too.

You see this same kind of soul in other marques.  I worked my way through
high school and college as a Honda motorcycle mechanic.  The Honda engine
designs up through about 1984 had a definite soul to them.  All of us who
worked on them recognized it.  And we all agreed that it disappeared around
1984, to be replaced by a different style and different thinking.

There is an intangible *something* that makes an Alfa an Alfa.  And I would
argue that it's neither the badge nor the bodywork.


Rich Wagner
Montrose, CO
Mojave, CA
Tehachapi, CA
And points elsewhere...
'82 GTV6 
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