I have to agree with Brian on all points. If I had happened to see the ad before seeing this thread I would have looked at the pictures, looked at the price and asked what the owner was smoking and moved on to the next ad. The pictures do not help make the case, could be excellent mechanically but it is going to need a paint job to be presentable so that is $$$, and the windshield rust will add more $$. The text is also hard to read, too much crammed in there as bs says.

Before I found my Super last year I looked very closely at a Berlina that the seller was asking $10K for and advertised as in great condition. The paint was excellent except for a sizeable spot on the trunk that he had burned through with a buffer, the windshield had a big crack in it and would have to be replaced and it had a few interior issues. It ran well and seemed very sorted mechanically and there was zero rust. I felt the price was too high considering some of the work that had to be done and offered a reasonable amount. We continued to go back and forth a bit over e-mail but then I found the Super and jumped on it.

My point is that that car presented very well in the pictures so was able to draw me in for a look, it may not have had all the upgrades yours does but at least appeared appropriate for the asking price. Your asking price will certainly keep most bottom feeders away but will probably also keep serious buyers away as most are probably not comfortable offering 1/2 on a $10K asking price so won't even bother to try. They will look at the apparent condition of the car and probably move on as I would have.

Just trying to given an honest opinion of what I can see.

Regards,
Kevin

On Wed 10/31/12 Oct 31 9:11 PM, Brian Shorey wrote:
You asked, so here's my opinion.

There are two problems with your car.  Three, if you consider that literally
the day it first showed up on Craigslist there was another Berlina posted that
looked pretty damn good, nice paint, for $2,000 less.  That one is no longer
up there, I'm guessing its been sold.

So, the two problems with yours:

1) the engine was rebuilt 30,000 miles ago.  Presumably, that's when the other
mechanical work was done?  As a buyer, I don't look at this as a fresh car
with mechanicals that have just been rebuilt, I look at it as a car that was
gone over 2-3 years ago, and driven since then.  Mechanically, everything
you've invested in it has been amortized by 1/3, at least.  As an aside, you
mention just doing a $2800 valve job, on an engine that was completely rebuilt
30,000 miles ago?  Why?  That alone would cause me to suspect the quality of
the rebuild.

2) the car is not presented well at all.  It looks like a run down, neglected
car.  Body panels are in primer, door panel not installed, wheels are dirty,
interior run down, tape on the wooden steering wheel.  Sorry, it doesn't look
that nice.  Rust around the windshield, not cheap to fix.

You can find a fairly decent Berlina for $10k.  A real nice one for $15k.
Yours has 30,000 miles on the mechanicals and a body that's going to need $5k
to make nice, not to mention the interior.

To me this is a $5k car, tops.

Sorry if this comes across as harsh, but you asked.  As an aside, the ad is
long and rambling, and reads like you're trying to convince or justify people
as to the merits of the car.  I think you would be better served listing all
the good stuff as simple bullet points, and the shortcomings as simple bullet
points, then let it speak for itself.

hth,

bs

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 31, 2012, at 2:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I'm sure many of you have seen my ad on Craig's List and eBay,  so here's a
question: What do you ask for a car that has had all the mechanical  work
done, with many upgrades, but needs a gasket windshield conversion with the
attendant body work around the windshield area? I just did a $2,800 valve
job,  it's got the $500 rare earth magnet starter, Merrit Carden lightened
gears, Euro  cams, rebuilt engine with Motronic pistons, Ingram pump, extra
wheels, many  spares, ReOriginals headliner in a box, extra rear glass,
rebuilt
taller diff,  rebuilt suspension, Bilstein shocks and lots of etc. I'm
probably in the car  $20k, I'm asking $10k obo, not that I expect to get
that,
but it keeps the  bottom feeders away and it's really a good car. My
experience is anything you  don't make "as new" will leave you by the side
of the
road, waiting for a tow to  your mechanic. It's all been done, it's a
completely reliable car. What's a  realistic price?
Stevan Thomas
1973 Berlina
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