Fair point. That’s where the Olympus LS-100 comes into its own as it has 
physical phantom power switches for the XLR inputs.


> On 21 Jun 2018, at 1:23 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah turning off and on Phantum maybe 1 thing. Cause if you don't need it or 
> if you wana use a mike that doesn't take it Neal always always warns to shut 
> it off. Love his tone of extreamly dangerous he uses when he does too.
> 
> 
> On 6/20/2018 9:47 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> That's just the point.
>> You can set things to a default state and not worry about them.
>> Who cares if you're making recordings at a higher bit rate than needed.
>> At least the recording will be good so the only thing you really have to 
>> worry about is having enough memory for that recording.
>> Memory is dirt cheap these days so this won't be a problem.
>> As for recording in MP3 mode? That's something I very rarely do but if I 
>> want MP3 from my Zoom H6 then I just transfer the files I've recorded over 
>> to the PC and have the PC sort all that out.
>> I've taken enough notes on the menu system for my Zoom H6 that I can get 
>> around the system and make those changes I need to make but in the main I 
>> don't need to touch anything there.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2018 9:16 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recorders
>> 
>> Well let's take the Zoom F8 as an example. For my example I'll use myself. 
>> Most things will be set it and forget it. Format for the most part I'd set 
>> to 192 KHZ 24 bits. Phantum power I might to save battery set it to 24 vults 
>> or heck even 12. Cause I think I red my AT-8022 can work with only just 11. 
>> pre record set it to the full 6 seconds. Done.
>> Now others may do differently, but what I guess I'm saying I'd only reset 
>> things or set things keeping in mind the fact this doesn't talk.
>> But I would ask someone. Or yeah maybe Be My Eyes could come in handy.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/20/2018 6:26 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I somewhat agree with you Dane.
>>> However some might not have the situation with sighted people around you 
>>> which imho is a must if you buy something that’s not talking or has a 
>>> display where reading is important.
>>> However i agree i would also not buy a talking microwave as long as i can 
>>> use a les expensive one with more features.
>>> The same for a recorder and whatever audio toy you might get.
>>> But now a days we have got some new interesting things with all new 
>>> services that comes around.
>>> I haven’t tested Be my eyes yet but they say its a pritty good service so 
>>> one might not need sighted friends around.
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 20 juni 2018 kl. 15:10 skrev Dane Trethowan <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> Having looked at the recorder I wouldn’t describe it as having outstanding 
>>>> features.
>>>> This product has been designed around accessibility and that’s a good 
>>>> thing but for a recorder itself? Well its not outstanding even at its 
>>>> price point.
>>>> For me a recorder is a recorder meaning I want the recorder to do exactly 
>>>> what it was designed to do, record and record as well as my finances will 
>>>> allow.
>>>> To put it another way, I know there are talking microwave ovens available 
>>>> but they cost hundreds of dollars.
>>>> So the question is why pay hundreds of dollars when you can purchase a 
>>>> very good oven for no more than a couple of hundred dollars at most which 
>>>> has far more functionality than the talking microwave itself? Grant you 
>>>> the Talking microwave talks but has limited cooking functions and cooking 
>>>> functions are exactly what I buy a microwave oven for.
>>>> Similarly I buy a recorder to record and - whilst Voice Guidance is a very 
>>>> nice and appreciated touch - its not the be and end all when making a 
>>>> choice for a recorder.
>>>> An FM radio in a recorder? Yeah a nice and convenient tool to have perhaps 
>>>> not not an essential feature.
>>>> The bit depth and sampling rate won’t worry those who are wanting to use 
>>>> the recorder for note taking but again why would you pay for a product of 
>>>> inferior audio quality when the Olympus LS-P4 - which is a far more 
>>>> powerful recording instrument - is around the same price?
>>>> And of course there are other recorders out there other than those we’ve 
>>>> been discussing, the Zoom H1N comes to mind and I really must try one at 
>>>> some stage to see if its better than my Zoom H1 machine which I still 
>>>> treasure as that was my first field recorder.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Jun 2018, at 10:43 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah I'd love to hear how this Eltrinex recorder sounds. Cause if it's 
>>>>> real accessible and real good sounding than that's great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Especially for someone who wants accessibility. Cause apparently this has 
>>>>> more accessibility then the Olympus recorders. But again this from what I 
>>>>> heard in the clip could have a synth of some sort. Olympus just has a 
>>>>> lady say stuff and they connect her recordings to each menu choice. Which 
>>>>> is a great idea but it means that total accessibility like a plextalk 
>>>>> would mean haveing this person speak every single little thing this 
>>>>> rcorder does. Which as we've seen with the P recorders they have had her 
>>>>> say some more but we aren't DM-4 level yet.
>>>>> On 6/20/2018 7:00 AM, Don Breda wrote:
>>>>>> Dane I decided to give the eltrinex recorder a try since for messages 
>>>>>> and other notes it really stands out in its capabilities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did purchase one yesterday and will give it a try.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will report to the list on its prose and cons and maybe share a few 
>>>>>> recordings once I have had it for a while.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will be returning the ls-p1 for a full refund.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do have an ls-14 for high quality recordings although these days I 
>>>>>> usually use my iPhone for that so we shall see what happens with regard 
>>>>>> to the eltrinex.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19-Jun-18 7:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>> In these situations I always hope I’m wrong, so are you going to have 
>>>>>>> the P1 swapped for a P4 or think about something entirely different.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2018, at 5:50 am, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, this eltrinex don't have xlr and such for hamit, so I guess
>>>>>>>> its sort of comparible with pocket or higher. Since it don't seem
>>>>>>>> to have stereo microphones I cannot recall.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2018, Aidan <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Olympus dm7.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2018, Bob Hicks <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What is the complete model name of the DM 7?  tnx
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bob Hicks
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Aidan
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Olympus recorder question:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Of corse olympus continued the work after the dm4, they done
>>>>>>>>>> the dm7 wich have improvements there. Example, on dm4 you had
>>>>>>>>>> to switch a setting on wich allow file names to be spoken, but
>>>>>>>>>> with dm7 there is no such thing, it just works. It read
>>>>>>>>>> everything even the password for wifi.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2018, Dane Trethowan <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t want to spoil the party but I think you’re going to be
>>>>>>>>>>> a little disappointed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2018, at 8:39 am, Don Breda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dane.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will report back tomorrow but my understanding is that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ls-p1 is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ls-p2 without the bluetooth feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The manual seems to indicate that voice guidance is there but
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will confirm tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Believe me if it doesn't its going back right away grin!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18-Jun-18 6:17 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope I’m wrong, I think the LS-P1 is one of Those that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t have speech and not all Olympus recorders do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand it the LS-P1 is the model down from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LS-p2 and lacks some of the functionality of the P2 including 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice Guidance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As per your question regarding TTS? I’ll need some help on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this but to my knowledge the DM4 was one of the few Olympus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorders to have a fully fledged TTS built-in so that’s why
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that particular model was able to handle so much more in the form 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Daisy books and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a pity that Olympus never continued on with the good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DM4 to finish the job but there we are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2018, at 6:55 am, Don Breda <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eagerly awaiting the arrival tomorrow of my ls-p1 recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and had one question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the ls-p series actually contain a text to speech
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesizer as I am told the olympus dm-4 does?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ask because I would like to give names to the folders  on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recorder and possibly create new ones and have their names 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **********
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> **********
>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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