Meh I don't really use ITunes. I have it for updating my IPhone and putting the songs I Buy from the ITunes store on my PC. But I don't play much with it. I like WMP well enough for that. I use Windows Media because of it's SRS Wow effect you can turn on and with the right PC mother bord audio it's epic! It's great on the H6 too.

On 10/8/2018 2:14 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Thankfully I've never had VLC crash on any platform I've used it on.
I've had iTunes crash recently though.
I just hate the way the iTunes software intrudes and makes decisions on what 
files it will and won't play, puts folders all over your drive without 
permission and so on, a damn Pain in the A to put it bluntly and I would advise 
people - particularly Windows users - not to install the rubbish and leave well 
alone if possible.
Mac users of course don't have a choice as iTunes is part of OS so delete the 
App so it doesn't have a chance to automatically pop up and cause problems when 
you least expect it.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 5:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?

Hi!
I seldom use Itunes too but it works when i add records to my library.
Last time i used vlc on mac it crashed so i have to see if i can dig it up 
again and try it out.
/A

8 okt. 2018 kl. 19:45 skrev Dane Trethowan <[email protected]>:

Yes I enjoyed Foober for a while there, guess I just fell back to VLC Media 
Player because of functionality and ease of use.
I wouldn't recommend iTunes for anyone whether they be a Mac or a Windows 
users, just far more complicated and intrusive than it really needs to be and 
it seems iTunes is more about looking pretty rather than providing 
functionality or flexibility, you can't play too much with iTunes for a start 
and that's part of the reason why I ditched the IOS platform in the main, like 
iTunes its too restrictive when it comes to media.
There's Windows Media Player of course which has a noble and loyal band of 
followers and - from what I've seen of the Software - with every justification, 
it’s a real neat player.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders
Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 4:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?

Hi!
WHen i was on windows which isn’t the case much anymore i used to use 
Foobar2000.
Just to give another perspective.
Imho Foobar was more customable and you could create shortcuts to  just 
anything you want.
There are other good players for video around for WIndows at least.
One called Gom player.
BUt i am on the mac and for mac there’s vlc and Itunes.
I  haven’t tried  any others.
/A

6 okt. 2018 kl. 02:32 skrev Tom Kaufman <[email protected]>:

Hello Dane and list:  VLC may be a good player for video (haven't
played with it as extensively as some) although I will say that I
tried to play a video that I have in my collection (is one of a show
that I was involved in) for whatever reason, VLC absolutely would not
play it!  Never was able to find out why!  For me, if you're strictly
talking about audio, I'll take Winamp any day and am sorry that it
isn't being updated anymore!  But that's just me; others may have
differing opinions, but Winamp is the one that seems to work best for me!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 8:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

For what its worth from me and thanks for starting this discussion.
Its been a very long while since I used Winamp, why did I stop using it?
Because Winamp kept crashing when I tried to play video files
recorded in standard TS format from my video TV tuners that I use
still ttill this day though different models obviously.
So then began my search for a new player that was easy to use and did
what I believe a player needs to do, play the track when I press
play, move to the next track or skip through a track when I press or
hold the forward button etc.
VLC did these things and many more besides.
I grant you, VLC is not the friendliest App to get around but one can
get around much of it using the JAWS cursor or whatever your thing is
called on your Screen Reader.
If I had my way equalisers in players wouldn't be present.
I know I sound harsh but the amount of times I've seen equalisers
abused to the point that people manage to stuff their speaker systems
up causes me to perhaps take this view.
A good sounding pair of speakers which don't cost all that much these
days shouldn't require any additional medaling in the form of an equaliser.
I went to someone's house the other day, this chap had what I would
call a perfectly serviceable pair of Altec Lansing computer speakers,
well at least I would have termed this speaker system in that way
when it was bought but after this chap had applied God only knows how
many equalisers in the audio chain? Well this respectable speaker
system had been turned to the sound of mud literally, sure! Enough
bottom but for what, to demolish the house and perhaps Next doors dwelling too? 
It certainly didn't sound good.
And the top, well it was there but incredibly harsh to the point that
my ears felt sore just trying to listen to the thing.
Where was the Mid-range? Lost somewhere in the cocofany of noise.
Anyway back to the point of VLC and I'm very pleased to say that the
developers are slowly but surely making accessibility fixes as
updates roll out and I reckon they're doing a fair job since VLC is
an open source package.
I use VLC on other devices such as my Apple Mac machines, iPhone and
iPads and Android with pleasing results.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

The VlC equalizer is certainly a lot less convenient to set and save
settings than the Winamp one using a screen-reader. One can easily
adopt any of the presets, but saving your own settings requires
messing with the not-too-accessible filters within the preferences
dialog box. Actually the whole design is weird and I wish that Video
Lan gave the ability to easily save and load multiple equalizer settings in VLC.

Just curious, but why not have both programmes? I watch a lot of
movies, especially with my sighted partner, and VLC is without doubt
an awesome video player and far more versatile and just better at
this than winamp ever was. However, I still use Winamp for my audio
needs and it works exceedingly well for this purpose even in Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: October 5, 2018 5:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

Hi all you nice audiofiles,

Well I use VLC myself, but I have an old fascion student, who prefers
Winamp.

I want to persuade him to do the switch.

But how is it with information about timing lenghth of files in
minutes and seconds and such. Can we easily get to that info also in VLC?

Are there other fields where VLC lacks information compared to Winamp?

Is it actually the other way around?



Best regards

Brian
































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