Yes, the discontinuation of Windows Media Center meant I had to tackle problems 
from different angles, think along different lines and take different 
approaches.
With Windows Media Center I was able to use TV Tuners plugged in or connected 
to the PC to record FTA and Cable tV.
Through Windows Media Center I was able to access TV guides and automatically 
schedule what I wanted to record, a very fancy and slick video recording system 
without a doubt.
So my upgrade to Windows 10 meant to a loss of Windows Media Center as you say 
but I found very good alternatives.
I use a Fetch TV set Top Box for the recording of Television programmes now, I 
can access the Programme Guide through the associated Android/IOS App and play 
the recordings back with VLC or Windows Media Player.
The Fetch TV system is getting a little old now so I’m again looking at other 
alternatives and here’s one that I recommend to the whole list as its an 
International product, look up Silicondust and examine some of their offerings.


> On 9 Oct 2018, at 5:27 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sadly shamefully that's true. In Windows 10 they finally got rid of Windows 
> Media Center. Which again made TV super accessible. We the blind should'a 
> joined all those that apposed getting rid of it more firmly. Though who knows 
> if with all the WMC fans and all the blind it would've still been enough or 
> not.
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> On 10/8/2018 2:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Is Windows Media Center still available? I do remember that with Windows 7, 
>> a real blast that software was.
>> I thought Microsoft had discontinued the development of that software.
>> Windows Media Player of course keeps bowling along and I had a play with it 
>> a couple of weeks ago, one thing I'll say for that Player is that it found 
>> and played all the content I wanted to hear over my network and other 
>> computer systems.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 4:54 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?
>> 
>> Yeah I use Windows Media Player. Also it was the most accessible DVD player 
>> with Windows 7. Along with Windows Media Center. Too bad Microsoft gave them 
>> up insted of making them Blu-Ray Disk capable.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/8/2018 1:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Yes I enjoyed Foober for a while there, guess I just fell back to VLC Media 
>>> Player because of functionality and ease of use.
>>> I wouldn't recommend iTunes for anyone whether they be a Mac or a Windows 
>>> users, just far more complicated and intrusive than it really needs to be 
>>> and it seems iTunes is more about looking pretty rather than providing 
>>> functionality or flexibility, you can't play too much with iTunes for a 
>>> start and that's part of the reason why I ditched the IOS platform in the 
>>> main, like iTunes its too restrictive when it comes to media.
>>> There's Windows Media Player of course which has a noble and loyal band of 
>>> followers and - from what I've seen of the Software - with every 
>>> justification, it’s a real neat player.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders
>>> Holmberg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 4:38 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> WHen i was on windows which isn’t the case much anymore i used to use 
>>> Foobar2000.
>>> Just to give another perspective.
>>> Imho Foobar was more customable and you could create shortcuts to  just 
>>> anything you want.
>>> There are other good players for video around for WIndows at least.
>>> One called Gom player.
>>> BUt i am on the mac and for mac there’s vlc and Itunes.
>>> I  haven’t tried  any others.
>>> /A
>>> 
>>>> 6 okt. 2018 kl. 02:32 skrev Tom Kaufman <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Dane and list:  VLC may be a good player for video (haven't
>>>> played with it as extensively as some) although I will say that I
>>>> tried to play a video that I have in my collection (is one of a show
>>>> that I was involved in) for whatever reason, VLC absolutely would not
>>>> play it!  Never was able to find out why!  For me, if you're strictly
>>>> talking about audio, I'll take Winamp any day and am sorry that it
>>>> isn't being updated anymore!  But that's just me; others may have
>>>> differing opinions, but Winamp is the one that seems to work best for me!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 8:20 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?
>>>> 
>>>> For what its worth from me and thanks for starting this discussion.
>>>> Its been a very long while since I used Winamp, why did I stop using it?
>>>> Because Winamp kept crashing when I tried to play video files
>>>> recorded in standard TS format from my video TV tuners that I use
>>>> still ttill this day though different models obviously.
>>>> So then began my search for a new player that was easy to use and did
>>>> what I believe a player needs to do, play the track when I press
>>>> play, move to the next track or skip through a track when I press or
>>>> hold the forward button etc.
>>>> VLC did these things and many more besides.
>>>> I grant you, VLC is not the friendliest App to get around but one can
>>>> get around much of it using the JAWS cursor or whatever your thing is
>>>> called on your Screen Reader.
>>>> If I had my way equalisers in players wouldn't be present.
>>>> I know I sound harsh but the amount of times I've seen equalisers
>>>> abused to the point that people manage to stuff their speaker systems
>>>> up causes me to perhaps take this view.
>>>> A good sounding pair of speakers which don't cost all that much these
>>>> days shouldn't require any additional medaling in the form of an equaliser.
>>>> I went to someone's house the other day, this chap had what I would
>>>> call a perfectly serviceable pair of Altec Lansing computer speakers,
>>>> well at least I would have termed this speaker system in that way
>>>> when it was bought but after this chap had applied God only knows how
>>>> many equalisers in the audio chain? Well this respectable speaker
>>>> system had been turned to the sound of mud literally, sure! Enough
>>>> bottom but for what, to demolish the house and perhaps Next doors dwelling 
>>>> too? It certainly didn't sound good.
>>>> And the top, well it was there but incredibly harsh to the point that
>>>> my ears felt sore just trying to listen to the thing.
>>>> Where was the Mid-range? Lost somewhere in the cocofany of noise.
>>>> Anyway back to the point of VLC and I'm very pleased to say that the
>>>> developers are slowly but surely making accessibility fixes as
>>>> updates roll out and I reckon they're doing a fair job since VLC is
>>>> an open source package.
>>>> I use VLC on other devices such as my Apple Mac machines, iPhone and
>>>> iPads and Android with pleasing results.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JM Casey
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:05 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?
>>>> 
>>>> The VlC equalizer is certainly a lot less convenient to set and save
>>>> settings than the Winamp one using a screen-reader. One can easily
>>>> adopt any of the presets, but saving your own settings requires
>>>> messing with the not-too-accessible filters within the preferences
>>>> dialog box. Actually the whole design is weird and I wish that Video
>>>> Lan gave the ability to easily save and load multiple equalizer settings 
>>>> in VLC.
>>>> 
>>>> Just curious, but why not have both programmes? I watch a lot of
>>>> movies, especially with my sighted partner, and VLC is without doubt
>>>> an awesome video player and far more versatile and just better at
>>>> this than winamp ever was. However, I still use Winamp for my audio
>>>> needs and it works exceedingly well for this purpose even in Windows 10.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
>>>> Olesen
>>>> Sent: October 5, 2018 5:50 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all you nice audiofiles,
>>>> 
>>>> Well I use VLC myself, but I have an old fascion student, who prefers
>>>> Winamp.
>>>> 
>>>> I want to persuade him to do the switch.
>>>> 
>>>> But how is it with information about timing lenghth of files in
>>>> minutes and seconds and such. Can we easily get to that info also in VLC?
>>>> 
>>>> Are there other fields where VLC lacks information compared to Winamp?
>>>> 
>>>> Is it actually the other way around?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
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