And more annoyances too, try listening to KNX in Australia and see how far you 
get without a VPN.


> On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:36 am, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have gotten used to internet radio, you have more choices of the same junk 
> to listen to. You don't have to put up with the noise.
> 
> 
> One night a Thunder storm blew out the electricity in the area and it was 
> like heaven as far as DXING again for a while.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/2018 8:49 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
>> I agree with this summary in general, but New York City, where I live, is a 
>> qualified exception. HD channels do work here, and they provide a little 
>> variety. There are probably other cities around the U.S. where the situation 
>> is also moderately better. Separately, shortwave is useless here and I gave 
>> up on it a long time ago. Enter Tapin to fill the void.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Schindler
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:22 AM
>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>> 
>> Mary and Howard are correct. You have five companies that own most of the 
>> radio stations in the states. Most of the talk stations are conservative.
>> 
>> 
>> They also didn't mention that cellular towers, noisy power lines and 
>> transformers from an ageing power grid, computers everywhere, and, leaking 
>> cable systems  adjacent interference from stations using the frequencies to 
>> the left and right of the main station for HD radio makes it almost 
>> impossible to DX any more. IF you do pull in a station at night that is an 
>> HD station because of the reduced power, it sounds terrible anyway because 
>> of the sky wave conditions. Because of these things it isn't worth buying a 
>> good radio no matter how sensitive or selective it is if you can't enjoy a 
>> good listening experience.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/11/2018 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Howard,
>>> I have to agree with you. As somebody who grew up loving to DX on the 
>>> medium wave band and then later got a ham license, I love radio. But radio 
>>> in the United States these days is useless. I wouldn’t spend 10 bucks on a 
>>> radio. There’s nothing to listen to. Unless you come to the states, Dane, 
>>> you simply can’t understand what we’re talking about. If it’s better for 
>>> you in Australia, great. But here, everything is owned by big corporations 
>>> and who really gives a damn? There’s no local color nothing. It’s worthless.
>>> Mary
>>>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Howard Traxler 
>>>> <how...@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dane, you are generalizing.  Some ham radio guys know the stuff and some 
>>>> don't.  Whichever I am is no concern to anyone but me.  All I am saying is:
>>>> 
>>>> (only an opinion); broadcast radio and TV, these days, is nothing but a 
>>>> vast waste land and not worth the price of any type of receiving device.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think you're missing the point.
>>>> This radio is a very reasonably priced and good sounding set so no matter 
>>>> what your radio listening habits - long distance or local - then it’s a 
>>>> set worth getting.
>>>> And please forgive me again but those who use Ham radio sets I've found 
>>>> wouldn't know a a good sensitive long distance receiver if they fell over 
>>>> one.
>>>> Yep I know that Kenwood are recognised for transceivers as are Uniden and 
>>>> a whole heap of other companies but they're not known for long distance 
>>>> reception of the type I'm talking about, you need nice antennas to be 
>>>> strung up, nothing wrong with that at all but I like to move around.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard
>>>> Traxler
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2018 2:10 PM
>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>>>> 
>>>> Don't know what kind of broadcasting is done in Australia, but here in the 
>>>> states there isn't much that I'd turn on the radio for--no matter how good 
>>>> the radio be.
>>>> 
>>>> Being a radeo ham, I have a Kenwood TS-590S.  The receiver on this one 
>>>> tunes continuous from the "long wave" bandup through 54 (or so) megahertz; 
>>>> very nicely covering the US broadcast band.  With external amplification, 
>>>> this one can have pretty good sound.  Not to take anything away from the 
>>>> CC radios or even the super radios; there has to be something out there 
>>>> that one desires to hear; or what good is it?
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Shame you feel that way as there’s plenty to recommend a radio such
>>>> as this if you’re thinking from a content perspective.
>>>> Actually one could argue that its probably better to be able to
>>>> listen to long-distance radio given the rubbish some local city
>>>> stations broadcast and then you’ll never know unless you try
>>>> receiving these stations so therefore you’ll need something good to 
>>>> receive them on in the first place.
>>>> So enter the CC EP Pro as a very good starting point for a most
>>>> reasonable price.
>>>> There aren’t too many radios that come near the CC EP Pro as far as
>>>> performance these days and I’ve had my view confirmed when scanning
>>>> about the band and listening to the set earlier this morning.
>>>> Yes, you can go for all those vintage sets if you like as I myself
>>>> have done but its really not worth the bother doing that unless you
>>>> know someone in the repairs business.
>>>> Let’s take the classic GE Super Radio version II, I got one in 1990
>>>> and I gave it away.
>>>> Now suppose I was offered one of those sets today the question then
>>>> arises, should I buy or should I settle for something else like a CC
>>>> EP Pro? To me the answer is obvious, forget about the GE Super Radio
>>>> and take the CC EP Pro.
>>>> The GE Super Radio would most likely require an alignment and finding
>>>> someone to do that may take some time.
>>>> The CC EP Pro is as good as - if not a little better in some ways -
>>>> as the GE Super radio was.
>>>> The CC EP Pro is far quieter whereas the GE Super Radio was quite
>>>> noisy in comparison.
>>>> The CC EP Pro in my view has a definite performance edge when it
>>>> comes to receiving those distant stations not only for the lack of
>>>> noise but because of its pinpoint accurate DSP tuning, the CC EP Pro
>>>> is about as selective a radio you’ll find anywhere.
>>>> The GE Super radio may sound a little better but the amp isn’t much
>>>> good and you’re not going to get much volume out of it.
>>>> The CC EP Pro lacks a little bottom but does have a smaller speaker.
>>>> So yes, whatever your listening habits - local or distant, AM or FM -
>>>> then the CC EP Pro is certainly worth the look, I can’t remember the
>>>> exact price of the radio now - I obviously pad to pay quite a bit
>>>> more to have the unit shipped to Australia -, the price is well under a 
>>>> hundred US dollars.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Oct 2018, at 4:09 am, Howard Traxler
>>>>> <how...@traxlerenterprises.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure would have been nice to have this radio (or something like it)
>>>>> 60 years ago.  I'm not convinced that there's anything out there
>>>>> worth having a good radio for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey" <cwoll...@wi.rr.com>
>>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 8:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi is this A single conversion or A duel conversion radio?
>>>>> And Do you have the cc radio 2 E and do you think that this one is
>>>>> better than that set?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane
>>>>> Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 7:21 PM
>>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>>>>> Subject: [all-audio] CC EP Pro Radio continued
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again!
>>>>> I had the pleasure of receiving my CC EP Pro AM/FM radio around half
>>>>> an hour ago so I’ve been able to do some quick testing of this unit.
>>>>> Firstly for the price its an absolute bargain if you’re wanting a
>>>>> modern-day “Super Radio” but the radio isn’t without some annoyances.
>>>>> The first is with the sound, not much bottom but enough I guess,
>>>>> certainly a lot of very nice crisp top.
>>>>> You have to be extremely careful how you tune this radio, you can’t
>>>>> go racing up and down the dial as you can with a standard analogue
>>>>> type radio.
>>>>> The CC EP. is in fact a radio with an Analogue dial but tunes in
>>>>> steps of
>>>>> 9 or 10KHZ selectable and you can hear the radio step as you tune
>>>>> slowly up or down the band.
>>>>> If you tune too fast then you’ll miss hearing those weak signals and
>>>>> may actually hear nothing at all if you tune at speed.
>>>>> So that out of the way the other thing to remember is that you may
>>>>> not hear a correct representation of the received signal when you
>>>>> first tune there, this radio has some traits of that annoying Soft
>>>>> muting so wait a second of two before passing judgement.
>>>>> The next thing the user has to bare in mind is that the CC EP Pro -
>>>>> like the former CC EP - has a tuneable ferrite twin coil antenna.
>>>>> Normally leaving the tuning knob at its middle detent should give
>>>>> you reasonable reception anywhere on the AM band but I have found
>>>>> that if you’re prepared to tune about with this knob you can improve
>>>>> the reception significantly, something you quickly get used to.
>>>>> The next thing to note is that this radio is extremely directional,
>>>>> is that good or bad? Well if you’re wanting to say nun out very weak
>>>>> stations next to very strong one’s then the directionality of this
>>>>> portable is a pure God Send and can make quite a dramatic difference.
>>>>> What it also means is that you may have to move the radio around a
>>>>> little bit to get optimal reception of your tuned station.
>>>>> All that aside then the radio is still a pure joy to use, simple but
>>>>> yet very affective at the job it was designed for, to enable the
>>>>> user to enjoy both local and long distance AM/FM broadcast with a
>>>>> reasonable quality sound not found on a lot of today’s radios.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>> --
>> Gary G. Schindler
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Gary G. Schindler
> 
> 
> 


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