So it seems yes and there are plenty worse out there.

> On 18 Aug 2019, at 7:33 am, Gary Schindler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It isn't a bad radio. The sensitivity is quite good.
> 
> 
> I have a Marc 3 which is half the price of the Hd-R16 and it has an edge on 
> FM sensitivity and it fits in your over sized pants pocket.
> 
> 
> On 8/17/2019 5:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> No, I don’t have a HDR16 but I do know someone who does and he has 
>> demonstrated it often enough to me both via FaceTime and with recordings 
>> captured directly from it.
>> No point me getting a HDR16 as we don’t have HD radio in Australia but Tom 
>> would be the first to agree with you that the AM of the HDR16 could b e 
>> improved.
>> The AM of the PR-d17 is improved of that of the HDR16 however the PDR-17 
>> doesn’t have facilities to receive HD AM or FM.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2019, at 6:39 am, Gary Schindler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You have the Hd-R16 like I do! The AM could be improved..
>>> 
>>> On 8/17/2019 2:08 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>> Dane:  I understand what you're saying in regard to how what you hear over
>>>> the air is different than what you hear over the internet!  Not all 
>>>> stations
>>>> are this way; WSM (in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A.) as much as I've been 
>>>> able
>>>> to determine, is exactly the same on the internet as it is if you listen to
>>>> AM 650!  But yes...there is something kind of special (and I can't explain
>>>> it) but if you can get a far-off station to come in good on a bonified 
>>>> radio
>>>> that is kind of unique!  Having said that, I do enjoy being able to listen
>>>> to a station that is out of my area without having to contend with the
>>>> station fading out!  I still can remember how it used to be, trying to
>>>> listen to the Grand Ole Opry back in the day; a song would be playing
>>>> and...just at the part where maybe a good instrumental solo was coming up,
>>>> WSM would start fading away to the point where you couldn't really hear it!
>>>> Of course nowadays, every now and again, you do get a situation where (if
>>>> you're listening on your computer or smart speaker) the connection drops;
>>>> this is also a pain! Fortunately (at least in my case) this doesn't happen
>>>> all that often!  In regard to this San Gian radio: I might be tempted to
>>>> check it out further if it had the capability to get HD!  I bought a San
>>>> Gian radio a couple of years ago (don't remember the exact model number) is
>>>> a nice radio and does get HD, but isn't quite as good as I thought it was
>>>> going to be!  While it has wonderful selectivity, to me it tends to be a
>>>> little noisy on AM!  On FM, if a station isn't really that close, sometimes
>>>> the stations will sound fuzzy or sort of like it is "miss tuned!"
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:31 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
>>>> Impaired
>>>> 
>>>> A couple of things here.
>>>> Often these days - particularly it seems with broadcasters from the US - 
>>>> the
>>>> Internet Streams and free-to-air broadcasting are two completely different
>>>> things.
>>>> Listen to say KNX or WINS and what you get over the Internet is quite
>>>> different than what you'll hear from the Medium-Wave transmitter.
>>>> Next - as a DX Listener - I find Internet radio to be rather an insult.
>>>> That is anyone can listen to Internet streams and that's convenient without
>>>> a doubt.
>>>> But their can be no doubt that the fun and the challenge from a DXer's 
>>>> point
>>>> of view is to be able to listen to that far off station and furthermore be
>>>> able to report the fact - in both written detail and literal sound - to the
>>>> station itself.
>>>> I have managed to listen to KNX in the US from Australia a number of times
>>>> on the radio long before Internet was even thought of for this sort of
>>>> thing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of -
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2019 2:57 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
>>>> Impaired
>>>> 
>>>> I have few to none problems listening to radio worldwide on my 
>>>> smartspeaker.
>>>> It is also a fraction of the cost of an intrnet or standard radio.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That's the theory about Smart Speakers yes however they don't always
>>>>> do what you tell them to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of -
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:07 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Sangean PR-D17 AM/FM Radio for the Visually
>>>>> Impaired
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even internet radios have been passed by.  Smart speakers will stream
>>>>> all internet radio sources, including those worldwide, all by voice
>>>> command.
>>>>> And they have many other sources of audio info including thousands of
>>>>> podcasts and the cable and other news sources.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Gary Schindler wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is why Sangean should concentrate on designing an internet
>>>>>> radio with
>>>>> talking menus.
>>>>>> Once you have used a Sangean radio you get familiar with the
>>>>>> nomenclature and how to operate them and to me there isn't much
>>>>>> advantage
>>>>> to having one of these!
>>>>>> It is commendable that Sangean does for now build something with
>>>>> accessibility in mind.
>>>>>> On 8/15/2019 2:46 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi! Actually not want to disrespect people here but i don???t get
>>>>>>> the Am/fm radio thing anymore. I have a harman/kardon receiver
>>>>>>> here but i very very seldom use the radio in that receiver. Maybe
>>>>>>> i am boring or stupid or something but why not just listen via
>>>> internet.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 22:54 skrev Dane Trethowan
>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> Now this radio may be well worthwhile grabbing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://radiojayallen.com/sangean-pr-d7-am-fm-radio-for-the-visua
>>>>>>>> ll
>>>>>>>> y-impaire d/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> -- XB
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> XB
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Gary G. Schindler
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> -- 
> Gary G. Schindler
> 
> 
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