Hello Andy,

Thanks, for the clarifications. I shall have to use some AIRA minutes.

I am not sure how you would merge both sets into one track. But binaural 
recordings are referred to as being 3D anyway.

Regards,

> On 14 May 2020, at 14:01, Andy via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi again Georgina.
> 
> they are on 6ft of good quality cable, Splitting in to a Y about 2 ft from 
> the end.
> 
> These 2 microphones are the size of a rubber on a pencil, and held onto Gold 
> plated Sure clips, that can individually change through a variety of degrees, 
> with each turn, it's a steady solid movement, so you know what degree you are 
> at .
> 
> I normally keep the cable under a flease, so I'm not tripping up on  these.
> 
> the Crockadyle grabs are quite sharp and grip onto your collors very snugly 
> indeed.
> 
> I love these microphones and dying to buy another set,
> 
> no I'm no good at all at spending money on a websit, as I seem to get lost 
> filling in my bank details.
> 
> I think I clicked on Contact Us, so you can describe what you are looking for.
> 
> I found them very helpfull in helping you out.   I tried the other week back 
> and left a message of my rquirements, so they could make up a bundle and a 
> Ref no, but they did not get back to me.  Perhaps it's lock-down and this 
> part of sales is currently closed.
> 
> I have an English friend who has some sight and he is going to get me a set 
> after I send him a bank transfer for the item and postage from England to 
> Scotland.
> 
> You'll not be disapointed with them.
> 
> The salesman I spoke to a year or so ago, stated that I'd also require an XLR 
> adaptor as these microphones only have a single small minnyjack.
> 
> The very small wind screens are however, a pain and easilly lost on a windy 
> day.  I'm going to buy a pack of small elastic bands and roll these over the 
> screen to hold them on snugly.
> 
> As they don't use Phantom power you need a small battery pack, which takes a 
> small pp9 battery.  You can purchase ths at the same time.
> 
> Incidentally, I was wondering what what kind of sound I'd get on my Zoom F8n 
> if I purchased 2 sets and attached the second set on my colour at the back? 
> 3d perhaps
> perhaps?
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
> 
> 
> Hello Andy,
> 
> I just tried ordering those  mics. However, I couldn’t find information about 
> international shipping. Nor how many microphones were in the package. i.e. Is 
> this a pair of microphones as you would expect to get the binaural affect? 
> Are there 2 mics on one Shure clip? How do you wear or carry them?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gena
>> On 14 May 2020, at 01:10, Andy via groups.io 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Casy.
>> 
>> It's:
>> 
>> https://www.microphones.com/microphone.cfm?urlid=BSM-9
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Casey" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi what site do you get thees microphones from?
>>> 
>>> And about how much do they cost?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/13/2020 4:37 PM, Andy via groups.Io wrote:
>>>> Hi Hamit and list.
>>>> 
>>>> Please dont underestimate the Binaural sound of street recording.
>>>> 
>>>> I've already purchased 3 sets of BSM 9 Binaural microphones from America 
>>>> and as far as I'm concerned the are the bestBinaural microphones on the 
>>>> market today.
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> I'm hoping to purchase a 4th pair but this time, I'm hoping to also 
>>>> purchase an XLR adaptore that will convert my mini jack to an XLR along 
>>>> with a small power pack to plug directly into my Zoom F8n!
>>>> 
>>>> So please don't underestimate these wonderful microphones.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a very good example of what I'm talking about.
>>>> 
>>>> Earlier today I wrote a mest to Georgena as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi again Georgina.
>>>> 
>>>> You would not probabally believe this Georgena, unless you put your trust 
>>>> in me totally.
>>>> 
>>>> About 15 years ago, when I still held some residual vision, I made a 
>>>> podcast called Andy's farm.
>>>> 
>>>> This was posted to Blind Cool Tec and the feedback I got from all over 
>>>> America was absolutely fantastic and very encouraging.
>>>> 
>>>> Sadly BCT no longer exscists and I'd love this group to try and do 
>>>> something the same, with podcasts along with sight seeing tours etc. 
>>>> Unfortunately this is yet only another dream!
>>>> 
>>>> I was a recently retired visual impairment manager and Pauline was a 
>>>> mental health nurse.
>>>> 
>>>> It's a lovely podcast when my wife and i were in our middle 40's.
>>>> 
>>>> Pauline and I live in a farm, that is, what is now communly know here in 
>>>> Scotland as a Small Holding.
>>>> 
>>>> I had very recently retired as a visual impairment manager with my local 
>>>> authority and Pauline was a mental health nurse.
>>>> 
>>>> Georgina. This place called Meikle Aiden farm was paid outright and 
>>>> Pauline and I lived a very special dream.
>>>> 
>>>> We have loads of land with set aside just for the wiled burds, rabits and 
>>>> hedhogs and it was just glorious and filled with love and happyness and we 
>>>> had loads of pets and friends from the wildside community, like Guess, 
>>>> Chickens, ducks, Dogs and Cats. It was beutiful.
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> Pauline was hoping to wright a book about our love and struggle we shared 
>>>> hoping that some people may be interested in her book.
>>>> 
>>>> Because of her commitments that still eccist , she sadellly did not get 
>>>> around to starting this.
>>>> 
>>>> So I made a podcast called Andy's Farm and I still listen to it today and 
>>>> feel very sad for all our dogs and cats that have past on since.
>>>> 
>>>> The remarkable thing about this Georgina. is that my podcaste was recorded 
>>>> using a basic Olympus DM 50 along with a pair of Bsm Binauaral microphones 
>>>> series 9 from America.
>>>> 
>>>> The quality of the sound in the podcaste i think is remarkable, giving the 
>>>> fact that all of my recording equitment cost little more than £100.
>>>> 
>>>> It makes me wonder why have I now have a Zoom F8n and why I'm ready to 
>>>> spend hundreds of pounds on specialised microphones.
>>>> 
>>>> So I'm suggesting start by going cheep as I did, learn about sound 
>>>> recording and move up only when You'r sure there is an improvement there 
>>>> for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding andy's farm, you can download my old podcaste from the following 
>>>> site:
>>>> 
>>>> Sendspace.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/o30z3i
>>>> 
>>>> Please, please consider this podcast and let me know if you think a £100 
>>>> total bill for the equipment was worthwhile .
>>>> 
>>>> Very best wishes.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Ah well then as far as binaural goes Larry from APH did it with in ear 
>>>>> mics. So these you put in your ear like earpods. They use your ear canal 
>>>>> to help shape the sound. He went to work at APH with them and an IRiver 
>>>>> recorder. I like the effect, but I don't like how binaural mics as they 
>>>>> are little mini me things that go in your ear have an ear bud quality to 
>>>>> them. They don't sound as good as an actual mic you hold in your hand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/13/2020 4:59 PM, John Gurd via groups.io <http://groups.io/> 
>>>>> <http://groups.io/> wrote:
>>>>>> I love binaural recordings. Although, as a wee flight of fancy, for that 
>>>>>> authentic effect you'd want a plastic head to clip them to, or maybe, a 
>>>>>> head brace to clip them to your own head to be fully immersive as you 
>>>>>> walk down the street. Lol.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seriously though, I wonder what the most practical way would be to port 
>>>>>> these things as a blind pedestrian making a mobile recording in a city 
>>>>>> street? I'd love to try it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Georgina Joyce
>>>>>> Sent: 13 May 2020 19:46
>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure if it is these Andy referred to. I would not consider them as 
>>>>>> being expensive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.microphonemadness.com/mm-bsm-9-binaural-stereo-microphones-omni-directional-with-shure-premium-holding-clips.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apologies, Andy, I didn’t answer your question but as the link suggests 
>>>>>> you are right in that they are omnidirectional. I ham going to see if I 
>>>>>> can add them to my collection. They would be fun.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 19:22, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> What are these bsm 9 mics?
>>>>>>> I guess they’re really expensive in price.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 13 maj 2020 kl. 00:51 skrev Georgina Joyce <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The better way and professional way is to mic up each member of the 
>>>>>>>> band with a mic that has the dynamic range of that sound source. So a 
>>>>>>>> mic for a guitarist is different to that for a vocalist. If the band 
>>>>>>>> wanted you to make a CD for them this is what you need to do. These 
>>>>>>>> mics would be cardioid polar pattern.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Right at the other end you have a covert recording where you would 
>>>>>>>> have a smart phone or other recording device in your pocket and wear a 
>>>>>>>> tie pin omnidirectional microphone. Such a recording will not include 
>>>>>>>> the close up details as the above professional recording.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Somewhere in the middle of those two extremes is where in the real 
>>>>>>>> every day world that we live in. The disadvantage of the 
>>>>>>>> omnidirectional is that it picks up everything, so in the pub 
>>>>>>>> situation someone puts a glass down on the table and it is now a part 
>>>>>>>> of the music. I think every pub has a squeaky door, so when someone 
>>>>>>>> goes to the toilet, those sounds become a part of the music. It is not 
>>>>>>>> until we start recording we realise how much our mind filters out. If 
>>>>>>>> we want to hear the band we unconsciously filter out the noise made by 
>>>>>>>> the others in the audience. But the recorder does not filter this out, 
>>>>>>>> if the mic hears it then it is heard on the recording. Which actually 
>>>>>>>> can sound better than a studio recording because it has character.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In answer to your question. I don’t know. It is for you to try 
>>>>>>>> different mics in different situations so that you learn what you 
>>>>>>>> like. But you have said that you want a big sound stage which means 
>>>>>>>> you want a omnidirectional. When you have experienced the limitations 
>>>>>>>> of those mics you might want to narrow the stage to get less of the 
>>>>>>>> unwanted noise and better subject matter. It is only you who knows 
>>>>>>>> what you want to gain and how much you want to learn against how much 
>>>>>>>> you just want to get the job done. We are not computers so can’t be 
>>>>>>>> programmed to understand we need some experience to work from. You 
>>>>>>>> have done a recording of a dawn chorus and it is up to you. Either to 
>>>>>>>> accept that is how it is or think how can I make the next one 
>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 23:15, Andy via groups.io 
>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><http://groups.io/><[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi again Georgina.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I understand what you are saying about viewing a TV, in terms of 
>>>>>>>>> sound. So I need to consentrate on an dinamic omnidirectional 
>>>>>>>>> microphone, to get a wider picture?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Funny though, for I'm also hoping to buy another set of BSM 9's 
>>>>>>>>> Binaural clip on Microphones from America. These are fantastic 
>>>>>>>>> microphones with a very good bridth of sound, particually when out 
>>>>>>>>> and about in a city with all the traffic and street sounds. Is this 
>>>>>>>>> type of microphone known as an omnidirectional microphone also?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that now I may know the type of microphone I need, I 
>>>>>>>>> can forget all about other types of mics.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It also sounds to me that, to record a five piece accustic band, at 
>>>>>>>>> my local pubwho are normall about 15 ft away covering an area length 
>>>>>>>>> of about 12 ft is achievable using such a microphone as would be 
>>>>>>>>> recording bird calls some 25 Ft above my head, to the front, covering 
>>>>>>>>> a distance of about 30 Ft.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So tomorrow I'll look at the Accessable Youtube and search only for 
>>>>>>>>> omnidirectional microphones? There will still be hundreds of varying 
>>>>>>>>> models though.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Need to be very mindful however about what you were saying about 
>>>>>>>>> moisture, particularry when out early in the morning with a heavy 
>>>>>>>>> morning duew.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:08 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back 
>>>>>>>>> and get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a 
>>>>>>>>> omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As 
>>>>>>>>> some condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that 
>>>>>>>>> logic you are looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is 
>>>>>>>>> dependent upon the size of your wallet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to 
>>>>>>>>> the television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater 
>>>>>>>>> death and detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of 
>>>>>>>>> trees not one bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The 
>>>>>>>>> cardioid pattern is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of 
>>>>>>>>> it. So the further from the mic the wider the spread. But never to 
>>>>>>>>> its sides or back. Thus if you had a noisy road or farm machinery you 
>>>>>>>>> could place the mic so those sources are behind the mic.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your 
>>>>>>>>> fields. If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to 
>>>>>>>>> consider using a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those 
>>>>>>>>> pre-amps. They are really terrible on the H6.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><http://groups.io/><[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Getting more confused as the day goes on.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - 
>>>>>>>>>> it's just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast 
>>>>>>>>>> microphone, but just about everything that I'm keen on recording 
>>>>>>>>>> requires a degree of width,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can 
>>>>>>>>>> see the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or 
>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor 
>>>>>>>>>> microphone with a wide spread.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, 
>>>>>>>>>> recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on 
>>>>>>>>>> right angle microphone.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Can you guess what is wrong with my recording?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio 
>>>>>>>>>> Microphone with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 
>>>>>>>>>> feet above the River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use 
>>>>>>>>>> in Texas???
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should 
>>>>>>>>>> look at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube .
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it 
>>>>>>>>>> a good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote 
>>>>>>>>>> more consideration.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to 
>>>>>>>>>> Record Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided 
>>>>>>>>>> earlier today by Gena.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> for -----
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello John,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a 
>>>>>>>>>> shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon 
>>>>>>>>>> one bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup 
>>>>>>>>>> area is shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not 
>>>>>>>>>> express the polar pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage 
>>>>>>>>>> then that is an omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo 
>>>>>>>>>> unless it is omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that 
>>>>>>>>>> binaural affect then again it is something else. Thus there are 
>>>>>>>>>> plenty of options for Andy and many choices and it is for him to 
>>>>>>>>>> decide what the end result is that he requires. i.e. What size stage 
>>>>>>>>>> does Andy want?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the 
>>>>>>>>>> microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io 
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><http://groups.io/><[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record 
>>>>>>>>>>> an individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A 
>>>>>>>>>>> dawn Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. 
>>>>>>>>>>> As Hamit suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this 
>>>>>>>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe 
>>>>>>>>>>> not a big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are 
>>>>>>>>>>> territorial, but they tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure Andy isn't so possessive he only wants the birds singing 
>>>>>>>>>>> in just his garden alone. You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big 
>>>>>>>>>>> weather heard from a small garden or an estate for that very 
>>>>>>>>>>> reason. 😉
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> On 
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello John,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape 
>>>>>>>>>>> tapering down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research 
>>>>>>>>>>> and his post caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Andy did not want ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from 
>>>>>>>>>>> his garden. Unless he lives in a huge estate it is not going to be 
>>>>>>>>>>> that wide of a field. I found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic 
>>>>>>>>>>> although this is with a camera. Even professional sound recordist 
>>>>>>>>>>> uses a shotgun. See this:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><http://groups.io/><[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even 
>>>>>>>>>>>> being off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt it would be the best for ambient recordings.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> On 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Booth Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sennheiser MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have the MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely love it and is my mic of choice. I think that would 
>>>>>>>>>>>> really do the job.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.io/><http://groups.io/><[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dead-Cat windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate XLR plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelution silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here some samples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Casey
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Call: M0EBP
> DMR ID: 2346259
> Loc: IO83PS
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


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