Hi! Speaking of such mics. Are there any such mics for the Iphone? /A > 14 maj 2020 kl. 10:54 skrev Andy via groups.io > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io>: > > Hi John. > > Why not give it a go my old friend. > > As soon as this Lock down is over, I intend doing just that, Perhaps you'd > consider joining me. > > Though this time, I'll not use the wonderful Olympus DS50 withthe BSm > microphones, but rather, the BSM set attached to my Zoom F8n. > > We could arrange to meet at Glasgow Central Stn. > > Here is the walk I've now done at leaset half a dozen times. I bet you can > follow this in your head John, because you needed to know the city, given > your job! > . > > After getting the ferry across from Kilcreggan to Gouroch, I get the express > to Glasgow Central Stn. > > I ask for sighted assistance when alighting from the train from Scotrail > staff to walk me out to Gavins St. > > I turn left , then left again and walk down to the Highlanders Umbrela on > Argyle Street. > > I walk along to the crossing at Jamaca St, cross the crossing to the other > side and walk down to Richard Sounds and to Kenny's Mucic next door. > > I can usually get bits and bobs in these shops. > > Then I'd go back up Jamaca street and cross Argyle St agian and walk right up > Buchanan street to the Apple store and onto Northface for something for > walking the hills, like a new fleese. > > Here is the interesting bit, continue to Walk up Buchanan St and glide over > to the right side and look for Greggs. > > Buy 2 of their lovely Vegan sausage rolls and cut through the path to Dows > Bar, just at Queen St station and have a couple of ice Cold Beers . > > Normally I'd cross the road into Queen St Stn and get a train to Helensburgh. > > Go into the Station Bar for another beer, then get the bus to Kilcreggan and > a 2 mile walk up the hill to my home. > > Now John , that is indeed a really grand day out and there is nothing Truer > than the statement that Glasgow really is the Friendly City, for as you know, > the people in the city are just fantastic and you don't even kneed to ask for > assistance, it's just there all the time in 3D friendlyness. > > Only one thing John, I'd rather have a lovely day rather than pissing rain, > which is often the case unfortunately. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gurd via groups.io" > <j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> > To: <all-audio@groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom > > > I love binaural recordings. Although, as a wee flight of fancy, for that > authentic effect you'd want a plastic head to clip them to, or maybe, a head > brace to clip them to your own head to be fully immersive as you walk down > the street. Lol. > > Seriously though, I wonder what the most practical way would be to port these > things as a blind pedestrian making a mobile recording in a city street? I'd > love to try it. > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce > Sent: 13 May 2020 19:46 > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom > > Hello, > > Not sure if it is these Andy referred to. I would not consider them as being > expensive. > > https://www.microphonemadness.com/mm-bsm-9-binaural-stereo-microphones-omni-directional-with-shure-premium-holding-clips.html > > Apologies, Andy, I didn’t answer your question but as the link suggests you > are right in that they are omnidirectional. I ham going to see if I can add > them to my collection. They would be fun. > > Regards, > >> On 13 May 2020, at 19:22, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> What are these bsm 9 mics? >> I guess they’re really expensive in price. >> /A >> >>> 13 maj 2020 kl. 00:51 skrev Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk >>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>>: >>> >>> Hello Andy, >>> >>> The better way and professional way is to mic up each member of the band >>> with a mic that has the dynamic range of that sound source. So a mic for a >>> guitarist is different to that for a vocalist. If the band wanted you to >>> make a CD for them this is what you need to do. These mics would be >>> cardioid polar pattern. >>> >>> Right at the other end you have a covert recording where you would have a >>> smart phone or other recording device in your pocket and wear a tie pin >>> omnidirectional microphone. Such a recording will not include the close up >>> details as the above professional recording. >>> >>> Somewhere in the middle of those two extremes is where in the real every >>> day world that we live in. The disadvantage of the omnidirectional is that >>> it picks up everything, so in the pub situation someone puts a glass down >>> on the table and it is now a part of the music. I think every pub has a >>> squeaky door, so when someone goes to the toilet, those sounds become a >>> part of the music. It is not until we start recording we realise how much >>> our mind filters out. If we want to hear the band we unconsciously filter >>> out the noise made by the others in the audience. But the recorder does not >>> filter this out, if the mic hears it then it is heard on the recording. >>> Which actually can sound better than a studio recording because it has >>> character. >>> >>> In answer to your question. I don’t know. It is for you to try different >>> mics in different situations so that you learn what you like. But you have >>> said that you want a big sound stage which means you want a >>> omnidirectional. When you have experienced the limitations of those mics >>> you might want to narrow the stage to get less of the unwanted noise and >>> better subject matter. It is only you who knows what you want to gain and >>> how much you want to learn against how much you just want to get the job >>> done. We are not computers so can’t be programmed to understand we need >>> some experience to work from. You have done a recording of a dawn chorus >>> and it is up to you. Either to accept that is how it is or think how can I >>> make the next one different. >>> >>> Regards, >>>> On 12 May 2020, at 23:15, Andy via groups.io >>>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi again Georgina. >>>> >>>> I understand what you are saying about viewing a TV, in terms of sound. >>>> So I need to consentrate on an dinamic omnidirectional microphone, to get >>>> a wider picture? >>>> >>>> Funny though, for I'm also hoping to buy another set of BSM 9's Binaural >>>> clip on Microphones from America. These are fantastic microphones with a >>>> very good bridth of sound, particually when out and about in a city with >>>> all the traffic and street sounds. Is this type of microphone known as an >>>> omnidirectional microphone also? >>>> >>>> It seems to me that now I may know the type of microphone I need, I can >>>> forget all about other types of mics. >>>> >>>> It also sounds to me that, to record a five piece accustic band, at my >>>> local pubwho are normall about 15 ft away covering an area length of about >>>> 12 ft is achievable using such a microphone as would be recording bird >>>> calls some 25 Ft above my head, to the front, covering a distance of about >>>> 30 Ft. >>>> >>>> So tomorrow I'll look at the Accessable Youtube and search only for >>>> omnidirectional microphones? There will still be hundreds of varying >>>> models though. >>>> >>>> Need to be very mindful however about what you were saying about moisture, >>>> particularry when out early in the morning with a heavy morning duew. >>>> >>>> >>>> Very best wishes. >>>> >>>> Andy. >>>> >>>> Very best wishes. >>>> >>>> Andy. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <g...@gena-j.me.uk> >>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Andy, >>>> >>>> If you were able to watch a television would you want to stand back and >>>> get the whole picture with reasonable detail. Then you want a >>>> omnidirectional microphone that you can protect from the weather. As some >>>> condenser mics are easily destroyed by moisture. So on that logic you are >>>> looking at a dynamic omnidirectional. The quality is dependent upon the >>>> size of your wallet. >>>> >>>> However, if you want more detailed image then you would get closer to the >>>> television and just focus upon a smaller area but at greater death and >>>> detail. The Shotguns would record birds in a small group of trees not one >>>> bird in a particular tree as others have suggested. The cardioid pattern >>>> is like imagining the mic has a funnel on the end of it. So the further >>>> from the mic the wider the spread. But never to its sides or back. Thus if >>>> you had a noisy road or farm machinery you could place the mic so those >>>> sources are behind the mic. >>>> >>>> It is fun to try different microphones and see what harvests your fields. >>>> If you do use a quiet dynamic microphone you might want to consider using >>>> a fethead so that you don’t have to crank up those pre-amps. They are >>>> really terrible on the H6. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 18:33, Andy via groups.io >>>>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all. >>>>> >>>>> Getting more confused as the day goes on. >>>>> >>>>> The Road NT1 is a no-no as I normally listen to sounds in sterio - it's >>>>> just the way I am. Perhaps the NT1 is a fantastic Podcast microphone, >>>>> but just about everything that I'm keen on recording requires a degree of >>>>> width, >>>>> >>>>> I'm totally not interested in recording a single bird, though I can see >>>>> the attraction if making a collection of birds inone country or area. >>>>> >>>>> Know, for a down chorus I'd be looking for a sterio outdoor microphone >>>>> with a wide spread. >>>>> >>>>> For example, here is a sample of my own International Dawn Chorus, >>>>> recorded at my farm on the 3 May, using the Zoom H6 with the clip on >>>>> right angle microphone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you guess what is wrong with my recording? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ox1jos >>>>> >>>>> I have now purchased the newer Zoom F8n and wish a XLR sterio Microphone >>>>> with a very good Dead Cat because my place is about 300 feet above the >>>>> River Clyde, so is rather windy. - What do they use in Texas??? >>>>> >>>>> Hamit suggests that if the Nt1 is not for me, then perhaps I should look >>>>> at the NT4. So I looked it up in Accessable Youtube . >>>>> >>>>> It's about £600 and is a USB microphone, which I think would make it a >>>>> good podcasting microphone, for a home studio computer. >>>>> >>>>> So I'm at a bit of a loss at the moment and need to give it a lote more >>>>> consideration. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps I can find out what I'm looking for using the link: How to Record >>>>> Bird Songs and Calls - Nature Recording | Audubon, provided earlier today >>>>> by Gena. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Andy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> for ----- >>>>> >>>>> Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" <g...@gena-j.me.uk> >>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:02 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello John, >>>>> >>>>> Fare point, as Andrew had done some research and considered that a >>>>> shotgun might be the solution I thought he was wanting to focus upon one >>>>> bird or those birds in a small area. As I pointed out the pickup area is >>>>> shown as a heart shape. The number of channels does not express the polar >>>>> pattern. If Andrew wants to record a wide stage then that is an >>>>> omnidirectional microphone he requires. Not a stereo unless it is >>>>> omnidirectional. Of course, if andrew wants that binaural affect then >>>>> again it is something else. Thus there are plenty of options for Andy and >>>>> many choices and it is for him to decide what the end result is that he >>>>> requires. i.e. What size stage does Andy want? >>>>> >>>>> There is a youtube reviewer of microphones who dances around the >>>>> microphones so you can hear the extent of the pattern. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 15:43, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>> <j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a look at the link. Most bird watchers want to focus-record an >>>>>> individual bird song sometimes out of many background songs. A dawn >>>>>> Chorus is all the birds in the area - not just a single bird. As Hamit >>>>>> suggests a stereo mike might be more likely to do this successfully. >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: last time I heard Andy was living in rural Scotland, so maybe not a >>>>>> big garden, but a lot of habitat. I know birds are territorial, but they >>>>>> tend to sing from adjoining gardens to, and I'm sure Andy isn't so >>>>>> possessive he only wants the birds singing in just his garden alone. >>>>>> You'll find a dawn chorus is just as big weather heard from a small >>>>>> garden or an estate for that very reason. 😉 >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina >>>>>> Joyce >>>>>> Sent: 12 May 2020 14:41 >>>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello John, >>>>>> >>>>>> They don’t cut out sharply it’s usually shown as a heart shape tapering >>>>>> down to the point. Obviously, Andy has done some research and his post >>>>>> caused me to do so as I use a shotgun in the booth. Andy did not want >>>>>> ambient sound. He wanted to record bird song from his garden. Unless he >>>>>> lives in a huge estate it is not going to be that wide of a field. I >>>>>> found that bird watchers use a shotgun mic although this is with a >>>>>> camera. Even professional sound recordist uses a shotgun. See this: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.audubon.org/news/a-beginners-guide-recording-bird-vocalizations >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12 May 2020, at 14:20, John Gurd via groups.io >>>>>>> <j.gurd=ntlworld....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I've read a shot-gun mike is so directional that even being >>>>>>> off-target a little will result in poor quality sound. I doubt it would >>>>>>> be the best for ambient recordings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Georgina >>>>>>> Joyce >>>>>>> Sent: 11 May 2020 14:16 >>>>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Microphones for Zoom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is down to you and how much you want to spend. I follow the Booth >>>>>>> Junky who uses a shotgun microphone a lot. He uses the Sennheiser >>>>>>> MKH-416. I haven’t been able to afford one of those but I do have the >>>>>>> MKH-166 which I purchased used from eBay. I absolutely love it and is >>>>>>> my mic of choice. I think that would really do the job. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11 May 2020, at 13:25, Andy via groups.io >>>>>>>> <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've got both the Zoom H6 and the F8n, but the only microphones I have >>>>>>>> are the 2 clip on ones that I origionally got with the H6. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm wanting to record the Dawn Chorus in my garden but don't have a >>>>>>>> clue as to which microphone , or best type, to buy and where to buy it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I need a directional Shot-gun microphone with a large Dead-Cat >>>>>>>> windscreen, and also about 3 meters of cable with the appropriate XLR >>>>>>>> plugs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone please give me some advice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, My Zoom H6 is playing up. I think I've changed an inportant >>>>>>>> option within the menues. I tried recording bird calls and the >>>>>>>> recording was extremely poor. Is there perhaps a function within the >>>>>>>> H6 that Re-sets the device back to factory settings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope you are all okay and enjoying this period of noise pelution >>>>>>>> silence to get very nice recordings. If so I'd love to here some >>>>>>>> samples. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very best wishes and please take care of yourselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andy Logue from Scotland. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gena >>>>>> >>>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>>> 73 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gena >>>>> >>>>> Call: M0EBP >>>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Gena >>>> >>>> Call: M0EBP >>>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>>> Loc: IO83PS >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Gena >>> >>> Call: M0EBP >>> DMR ID: 2346259 >>> Loc: IO83PS >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > Gena > > Call: M0EBP > DMR ID: 2346259 > Loc: IO83PS > 73 > > > > > > > > > > >
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