OK, what is a cloud lifter?
On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:53:00 -0400,
Georgina Joyce wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Providing we are talking about XLR connected mics and have access to fantom
> power. Don’t forget the fethead an alternative to the cloud lifter. They also
> do one for condenser mics.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> > On 15 May 2020, at 19:38, frank cuta <c...@bentonrea.com> wrote:
> >
> > There are several ways to reduce noise. You can start with the NT1A, you
> > can switch from the H6 to the F8N which has a lot more noise free gain or
> > you can stick with a mic of your choice and the H6 and buy a cloud lifter.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: all-audio@groups.io [mailto:all-audio@groups.io] On Behalf Of Hamit
> > Campos
> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:39 AM
> > To: all-audio@groups.io
> > Subject: Noise floor
> >
> >
> > Ah good. It's a great podcast. What I love most is that it's the 1 pod
> > cast where he uses the NT1-A the most.
> >
> > On 5/14/2020 10:36 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >> Hello Andy,
> >>
> >> Really appreciated. I have got it and now put it on my Trek.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>> On 14 May 2020, at 14:31, Andy via groups.io
> > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Georgena, Hamit and list.
> >>>
> >>> Gena asked for Neals Review. Are we talking about BSM binaural
> > microphones or the H6.
> >>>
> >>> If the latter, you can get it at here:
> >>>
> >>> Sendspace.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/xogibu
> >>>
> >>> I've a number of Neals podcasts from BCT but not them all.
> >>>
> >>> Hamit you said that Dane had them.
> >>>
> >>> You could not provide me with his e-mail address so I can ask for some or
> > all of them if possible.
> >>>
> >>> I discovered years ago that Neal rarelly replies to messages. Perhaps
> > I'll try again.
> >>>
> >>> Rick Harmon held the BCT Archieve at on time. Perhaps I'll drop the big
> > guy a wee message and see if he has retained any of them.
> >>>
> >>> Very best wishes.
> >>>
> >>> Andy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:43 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would
> > you do it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He use
> > to do reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't
> > know what happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. On
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >>>>> Hello Andy and Hamit,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our
> > hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is cranked
> > up to it's maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So can
> > you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2
> > ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That I
> > know of.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io
> > <meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Guys.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know
> > just how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be one!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos"
> > <hamitcam...@gmail.com <mailto:hamitcam...@gmail.com>>
> >>>>>> To: <all-audio@groups.io <mailto:all-audio@groups.io>>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How
> > would you do it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper
> > list. I've yet to finish that 1.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello Hamit,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No 36 is out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to
> > it. Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically 35)?
> > He is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which is
> > not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to
> > before.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic
> > mics. This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same for
> > the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus LS-100.
> > Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that yet and Neal
> > hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing on that either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out
> > of the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It would
> > be useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you
> > would need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if it
> > is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not familiar with
> > using expanders.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics
> > have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some
> > noise. So a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But
> > as you rightly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the
> > recording is to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings <thcumi...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be
> > careful about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can make
> > things sound
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but
> > if you are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly,
> > even a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on what
> > you are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom
> > Microphones. very long
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community of their experiences
> > and how they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted tips
> > on recording
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those
> > of us who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a
> > noise gate.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the
> > only mic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would
> > secure the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could
> > discard the first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get
> > away from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how clothing,
> > shoes and bangles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am
> > trying to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have
> > to be that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my
> > feet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for
> > the Zoom and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would
> > employ before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. So what about your experiences and approach?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
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