Hello,

Does anyone have written notes of the menu structure? I thought I had at least 
listed the steps to turning fantom power on. But I can’t find it.

Thanks,

> On 14 May 2020, at 15:36, Georgina Joyce <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Andy,
> 
> Really appreciated. I have got it and now put it on my Trek.
> 
> Thank you.
>> On 14 May 2020, at 14:31, Andy via groups.io 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Georgena, Hamit and list.
>> 
>> Gena asked for Neals Review.  Are we talking about BSM binaural microphones 
>> or the H6.
>> 
>> If the latter, you can get it at here:
>> 
>> Sendspace.
>> 
>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/xogibu
>> 
>> I've a number of Neals podcasts from BCT but not them all.
>> 
>> Hamit you said that Dane had them.
>> 
>> You could not provide me with his e-mail address so I can ask for some or 
>> all of them if possible.
>> 
>> I discovered years ago that Neal rarelly replies to messages.  Perhaps I'll 
>> try again.
>> 
>> Rick Harmon held the BCT Archieve at on time.  Perhaps I'll drop the big guy 
>> a wee message and see if he has retained any of them.
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> 
>> Andy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would you 
>> do it?
>> 
>> 
>>> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He use to 
>>> do reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't know 
>>> what happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. On
>>> 
>>> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>> Hello Andy and Hamit,
>>>> 
>>>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review?
>>>> 
>>>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our 
>>>> hearing range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is 
>>>> cranked up to it’s maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. 
>>>> So can you quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy?
>>>> 
>>>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2 
>>>> ways you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That 
>>>> I know of.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Guys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know just 
>>>>> how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be one!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would 
>>>>> you do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper list. 
>>>>>> I've yet to finish that 1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Hamit,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No 36 is out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to it. 
>>>>>>>> Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Hamit,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically 35)? He 
>>>>>>>>> is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which 
>>>>>>>>> is not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access 
>>>>>>>>> to before.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic 
>>>>>>>>>> mics. This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. 
>>>>>>>>>> Same for the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as 
>>>>>>>>>> the Olympus LS-100. Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed 
>>>>>>>>>> dynamics on that yet and Neal hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so 
>>>>>>>>>> can't say nothing on that either.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It 
>>>>>>>>>>> would be useful to share your tips to get the most from the 
>>>>>>>>>>> recorder.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you would 
>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not  familiar with using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise. So a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you rightly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be careful 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can make 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly, even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom Microphones. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community  of their experiences and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted tips on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise gate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only mic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would secure 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could discard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how  clothing, shoes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and bangles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoom and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> employ before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. So what about your experiences and approach?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>> 73
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Call: M0EBP
> DMR ID: 2346259
> Loc: IO83PS
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> 

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


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