Yes I agree with you regarding the H6, all these new recorders aside I still 
have a lot of time for my old friend particularly when it comes to recording 
conveniently, the capsule system allows for that.
Zoom have another new handy recorder called the H8 I think though I do not know 
just how accessible the recorder is given that it does indeed have a touch 
screen but is in many ways a lot more powerful than the recorders we’re 
discussing now, e recorders in one package.


> On 25 Aug 2020, at 8:19 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jarry. Mine is hamitcam...@gmail.com. I'd like to hear some of these files 
> too please. So how do you do? You set up the stereo mics as a stereo pare 
> than the third mic as a seprate center channal or something? Again friends 
> 5.1 surround sound is the name of the game for me. Oh yeah Dain yeah that was 
> the other major major thing for me. 6 XLR connectors all on the machine no 
> need for the EX H6 or an external box dangling off the H6. Hay I still love 
> my H6 Just want that almost Sound-Devices sound the F recorders have. I mean 
> I'd love even something like Neal Ewers's old 744-T recorder. Man that 
> thing's glorious especially with the Rode NT1-A.
> 
> On 8/24/2020 6:14 PM, Andy via groups.io wrote:
>> Hi Gerry.
>> 
>> I'm very interested in you're microphone set up for recording birds.
>> 
>> I'd love to here one of your recordings using your large Parama..... mic.
>> 
>> I've got both the 6 and the F8n  and some very nice microphones, but 
>> unfortunately, I've not had many opportunities for Bird call.
>> 
>> I take it with your mic set-up you are interested in singling out one sound 
>> source at a time.  I'm interested, But I'm also very interested in a Dawn 
>> Chorus wide angle recording.
>> 
>> My e-mail is meikle.ai...@btinternet.com            Very best wishes.
>> 
>> Andy.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Berrier" <jlbli...@gmail.com>
>> To: <all-audio@groups.io>
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 11:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F6 Recorder
>> 
>> 
>> If you link two tracks for stereo, you control them both with one knob. That 
>> way the levels stay equal on both tracks.
>> I also got the L batteries, although I bought less expensive ones.
>> I cannot imagine putting the F6 on my belt, unless I wanted to risk my pants 
>> falling down.  With the battery, it's kind of heavy.
>> I mostly use the recorder attached to my tripod that holds the parabola 
>> apparatus.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:30 PM
>> To: all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Zoom F6 Recorder
>> 
>> I agree with you regarding the knobs on the H6, absolutely terrible 
>> adjustments if you can’t see what you’re doing, the best adjustments like 
>> this can be found on the F8n.
>> The knobs on the F8n are pointers and have considerable drag behind them 
>> when adjusting.
>> The adjustments on the F6 are nearly as bad as the H6 though I suppose one 
>> could argue that with Float-32 then who really gives a damn anyway <smile>.
>> Because of the small control area one could argue that the controls are 
>> cramped.
>> The Zoom F6 is a little bigger than your description suggests and I 
>> certainly wouldn’t be too keen on clipping the F6 to a belt given the 
>> recorder is around 2 inches thick.
>> The F6 lie the H6 can be mounted on a tripod and a DSLR camera mounted on 
>> the top.
>> The F6 can fit into a hand easily enough, the best position for a F6 is on a 
>> table.
>> The XLFR connecters are down both sides, 3 on one and 3 on the other.
>> Another interesting aspect to the Zoom F6 and Zoom F8N is power.
>> The F6 by default is powered by 4 AA batteries but I suggest you think about 
>> an alternative power source to these as alkaline or rechargeable batteries 
>> won’t last too long with this recorder, rechargeable batteries cannot be 
>> charged from within the recorder.
>> The F6 has a USB-C connector on the side which can be used to power the 
>> device either with an AC Adapter or a Powerbank.
>> A power bank is without a doubt a cheap and handy option though for me a 
>> power bank wasn’t even a consideration as that meant more devices to lug 
>> about and more cables to connect.
>> The F6 can take the L camera series of Sony batteries and that’s what I 
>> settled on to power the recorder, I got over 30 hours of power to the 
>> recorder from one of these battery beasts though I should warn you that 
>> these batteries - if you buy the branded Sony type along with the charger - 
>> don’t come cheap, almost a quarter of the price of the recorder as a matter 
>> of fact for 2 batteries and the charger which I’ll go into detail about some 
>> other time.
>> Anyway the L series batteries clip onto the back of the recorder.
>> The powering of the Zoom F8n is intriguing to say the least.
>> By default the F8N takes 8 AA perlite batteries.
>> On the rear of the machine is a power socket that can except any voltage 
>> power supply from 9 to 18 volts.
>> Further to this there is another power socket on the side that can take the 
>> same voltages.
>> The user can `priorities the power supply so that if one supply is exhausted 
>> then the other supply takes over or if the voltage of one supply drops below 
>> a certain level than another supply kicks in so in short the Zoom F6 and F8N 
>> can perform literally hours upon hours of recording particularly in the case 
>> of the F8N with its dual SD card slots along with the USB connectivity.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2020, at 12:05 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The F controll has nobs and things on it last I heard. Curtis Jud talked 
>>> about it I think on 1 of the few vids he did of the F8 origenal. Well yeah 
>>> the 32 bits thing wasn't like the major major thing of why I wanted 1. 
>>> Actually the 6 XLRs all down the machine was more major and the fact that 
>>> it's small. Supposedly you can clip it to your belt. How small is it 
>>> anyways? Cause that is 1 set back to the H6 you can't be hands free. lol 
>>> Unless you put the thing on a tripod. You can put it in a bag I did with 
>>> the APH bag for the old handy casset recorder but and another draw back to 
>>> the H6 you can too easely move the volume nobs. Which ain't cool as is but 
>>> especially when you're doing stereo recordings and boath mics need to be on 
>>> the same level. I gave this to Zoom as well in my feed back report. So 
>>> we'll see if the H6N will have the bars like the H5.
>>> 
>>> On 8/24/2020 2:00 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> Apologies if the subject line was referring to the wrong recorder unit, 
>>>> the recorder we’re discussing here is the Zoom F6 and not the Zoom H6 
>>>> which are 2 completely different recorders.
>>>> Yes, I have a Zoom F6 and Yes, I have read other reviews and opinions on 
>>>> this recorder.
>>>> Like every Zoom or every other recorder the Zoom F6 to me has its 
>>>> advantages and disadvantages over some of the other Zoom recorders I have 
>>>> here - actually I have quite a collection of the brutes - but all-in-all 
>>>> my favourite Zoom recorder is still the Zoom F8n for far too many reasons 
>>>> to enumerate here and even the H6 still punches above its own weight in a 
>>>> lot of areas so I guess people are going to have to do a little more 
>>>> homework before you but.
>>>> Don’t just take notice of reviews and information that dished out to you 
>>>> and don’t be afraid to ask questions of those who have these recorders so 
>>>> we may arm you with the facts and the knowledge before you go out and 
>>>> invest your hard money in one of these recorders.
>>>> Whatever the recorder there is a little learning kerb to be had.
>>>> Some recorders have a better layout than others, this can make a real 
>>>> difference in operation.
>>>> Okay so I’ve not done all that much work with the F6 yet and have only had 
>>>> the machine for a few weeks so some notes to begin with through 
>>>> observations I’ve made.
>>>> The menu system wraps around on the F6 where on the F8N the menu system 
>>>> has fixed starting and ending points.
>>>> The menu navigation is performed by small buttons not much bigger than 
>>>> match heads, not my ideal way of doing things but there we are, I much 
>>>> prefer the jog-dial of the F8N or even the spring rocker of the H6 or H2n.
>>>> 32-bit floating point is an exciting development and the main reason why I 
>>>> bought the recorder but think carefully before you go out and spend your 
>>>> money.
>>>> Digital Recorders do have quite a bit of head room but like everything 
>>>> else they have there limitations so unless you really know that you’re 
>>>> going to be recording sounds from extreme soft to extreme loud then you 
>>>> might look at another recorder.
>>>> The absence of 6.25MM jacks is a bit annoying but not the end of the world 
>>>> of course, I guess it’s something that I’m used to.
>>>> And now for the real cruncher to be aware of if you’re thinking of using 
>>>> the Zoom F6 with an IOS device.
>>>> Yes this can be done and is aptly demonstrated on Mosen At Large but By 
>>>> Gee, it takes a bit of organisation to do and then you have to reconnect 
>>>> the Bluetooth and the iPhone every time you wish to start a session, sorry 
>>>> chums but that’s just not acceptable in my view when the Zoom F8n will 
>>>> connect via Bluetooth right out of the box if you have the latest firmware 
>>>> update installed.
>>>> Accessibility for the IOS App is about the same so if you’ve heard the 
>>>> Zoom F6 demo then you can pretty much sum up the F8N’s functionality with 
>>>> the F8 Controller App.
>>>> I’m yet to try one of the optional mixing surfaces available and I don’t 
>>>> know whether they consist of a touch screen or buttons, faders etc so 
>>>> perhaps someone can enlighten me here.
>>>> Think that’s all for the moment <smile>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Aug 2020, at 11:14 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Dain. On the RWP list there are like 3 or 4 guys including Neal
>>>>> Ewers and Jonathan Mozen that have 1. Do you have 1? What do you not
>>>>> like about the buttons and menus? I wanted 1 for the PCM 192 KHZ 32
>>>>> bits floating point WAV. Also it’s an F recorder so I assume it’s
>>>>> got the epic quality sound of the F4 F8 and now before it the F8N.
>>>>> Also the fact it’s got 6 XLRs would make using 6 mics with it for 5.1 
>>>>> surround sound easier than with the H6.
>>>>> Because with the H6 1 would need the EX H6 for starters than a power
>>>>> box to spit phantom at those other 2 mics. If you do have 1 how have
>>>>> you found pairing channals on it? Is it harder than the H6?
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> Was wondering if anyone on list had a Zoom f6 recorder and if so
>>>>>> what do you think?
>>>>>> I still have my Zoom F8N and H6 recorders and I have to admit there
>>>>>> are in my opinion a few things that put the F8N and H6 recorders
>>>>>> respectively above the Zoom F6, the main being layout of menus and 
>>>>>> controls.
>>>>>> I’m not at all knocking the F6 as its a beaut little compact
>>>>>> recorder with heaps of punch but like everything else the F6 has
>>>>>> its flaws so buy carefully if you’re looking at one of these recorders.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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