Hi Paige,
Oh my! Thank you. I have never seen alpine plants in the wild and this looks so 
exciting.

I should tell you that I am the partner of the REAL rock gardener, but I help 
and inspect and watch and learn. I am not an expert at anything in particular, 
but I know the plants that I looked at in the pictures and I am thrilled. It 
would be a great learning experience to actually see them in the wild. And I 
might lay claim to part of a rock garden. And I would be able to say things 
like: well in Turkey they seemed to prefer a southwestern aspect and I think it 
would be happier in the alpine meadow.

Thank you so much.

Shirley Whyte
Montreal, Canada 
USDA zone 5a
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pacific Rim 
  To: Shirley Whyte 
  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:16 PM
  Subject: Fw: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey


  Shirley, here are some pix of Turkish plants with the dates on 'em. Paige

  http://keesjan.smugmug.com/Botanical-trips/Asia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Pacific Rim" <    >
  To: "Shirley Whyte" <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey


  > You're welcome.
  >
  > I wasn't talking about curiosity seekers. I was talking about guys who are 
  > culturally unable to imagine that you aren't sexually depraved and fair 
  > game.
  >
  > Iris: don't know whether you mean oncos, or junos, or reticulatas, or what 
  > ... so I'll just leave you to do your own research.
  >
  > When you're back, share some of what you learned with the group.
  >
  > Good luck and bon voyage.
  >
  > Paige
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Shirley Whyte" <[email protected]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:37 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey
  >
  >
  >> Thanks so much,Paige.
  >> I don't mind missing the crocuses. Many of ours here are species.  I saw 
  >> lovely dwarf irises in the AGS bulletin. I will try to find when they 
  >> flower.
  >> I don't mind being taken as not respectable. This has never troubled me 
  >> so far. I think that being accosted by curiosity seekers and children is 
  >> manageable.
  >> I am glad you mentioned the balloons. The guide book I have them says 
  >> they are terrific and I wondered if it was too touristy, but then 
  >> touristy does not matter if what you are doing is fun or interesting or 
  >> educational or something you always wanted to try.
  >> Thanks for your advice.
  >> Shirley Whyte
  >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >>  From: Pacific Rim
  >>  To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright by 
  >> authors.
  >>  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:48 AM
  >>  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey
  >>
  >>
  >>  Hello, Shirley.
  >>
  >>  No one has answered you on the list, so I will have a go.
  >>
  >>  Turkey has wonderful plants; when to visit depends on the plants that
  >>  interest you. Crocuses are already blooming at lower elevations. By May 
  >> most
  >>  bulbs will be over but there will be roses, poppies and myriad other 
  >> meadow
  >>  herbs and shrubs wherever there is water. And dust everywhere else.
  >>
  >>  If you Google "Turkey botanical tour," lots of tours will pop up, with 
  >> hints
  >>  about plants and when and where to see them. You need not take a tour; 
  >> you
  >>  could organize your own travel, as I did; but I was not travelling 
  >> alone.
  >>  Travelling alone in the hinterlands of Turkey, a woman will encounter
  >>  suggestions that she is not respectable; that might make you 
  >> uncomfortable,
  >>  but I doubt you'd be assaulted. Nonetheless it can be simpler to travel 
  >> with
  >>  a tour group. Greentours has some botanical tours in Turkey; I haven't 
  >> taken
  >>  one but I respect the guides they use there. In the rock-garden journals
  >>  many other tours are advertised.
  >>
  >>  I can't advise about plants around Ankara. I was there only once, to 
  >> replace
  >>  a stolen passport, so long ago that Hittite was spoken in the streets.
  >>
  >>  Cappadocia is within reach of the Taurus Mountains, where there is 
  >> excellent
  >>  botanizing. But thanks to bus and air travel, you could get to pretty 
  >> well
  >>  anywhere else you wanted to visit without too much trouble.
  >>
  >>  Cappadocia itself is known mainly for its otherwordly terrain of karst 
  >> and
  >>  volcanic tuff eroded into towers, castles and caves. People have lived 
  >> in
  >>  the caves for millennia. Some caves were once hidden churches. Now some 
  >> have
  >>  become hotels.
  >>
  >>  Kayseri, ancient Caesarea, is important mainly for its airport. Goreme 
  >> has
  >>  the main historic sites, and it is where most balloon-tours begin, but I
  >>  wouldn't want to stay there because it has no life beyond tourism. I 
  >> don't
  >>  know what things are like now, but in 2007 we stayed in Urgup, at the 
  >> first
  >>  cave hotel in the region, Esbeli Evi, which you can find online. (There 
  >> are
  >>  other good hotels now, but we did find Esbeli Evi delightful).
  >>
  >>  Balloon tours? As in Jules Verne, in baskets high, high in the sky? Yes.
  >>  There is nothing like seeing Cappadocia from the air, shadows caressing 
  >> the
  >>  extraordinary terrain as the sun rises.
  >>
  >>  Paige
  >>
  >>  Paige Woodward
  >>  [email protected]
  >>  Manager
  >>  Alpenpix, the image gallery of Alpine-L
  >>  http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=alpenpix
  >>
  >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >>  From: "Shirley Whyte" <[email protected]>
  >>  To: <[email protected]>
  >>  Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:52 AM
  >>  Subject: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey
  >>
  >>
  >>  > Hello,
  >>  > I will be visiting Cappadocia, and Ankara in March, April or May.
  >>  >
  >>  > In Cappadocia I will be around Goreme, Kayseri, Aksaray.
  >>  >
  >>  > While I am not on a rock garden field trip, I was wondering if I could
  >>  > expect to see any interesting plants. I would appreciate it if anyone
  >>  > could give me advice on:
  >>  > - timing of visit -- March, April or May
  >>  > - any hope of finding plants in Cappadocia or near Ankara
  >>  > - logistics: I have been warned against wandering around alone
  >>  >
  >>  > Thanks for any help you can give me.
  >>  >
  >>  > Shirley Whyte
  >>  > Montreal, Canada     Zone 5a
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>
  >>
  >>  
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