Paige! Thank you so much for that amazing link. I hope everyone else on the 
list browsed through it: I don't think I have ever seen so many images of a 
trip so well arrayed: almost 3000! I looked through each one. Wow. What a treat 
to see so many dozens of great garden plants in their wild settings. And many 
of my friends from the Mediterranean and also Central Asia: of course, Iran is 
right in between! 



Thanks, 



PK 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shirley Whyte" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:44:50 AM 
Subject: [Alpine-l] Fw:  Plants in Turkey 


Hi Paige, 
Oh my! Thank you. I have never seen alpine plants in the wild and this looks so 
exciting. 

I should tell you that I am the partner of the REAL rock gardener, but I help 
and inspect and watch and learn. I am not an expert at anything in particular, 
but I know the plants that I looked at in the pictures and I am thrilled. It 
would be a great learning experience to actually see them in the wild. And I 
might lay claim to part of a rock garden. And I would be able to say things 
like: well in Turkey they seemed to prefer a southwestern aspect and I think it 
would be happier in the alpine meadow. 

Thank you so much. 

Shirley Whyte 
Montreal, Canada 
USDA zone 5a 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Pacific Rim 
To: Shirley Whyte 
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:16 PM 
Subject: Fw: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey 

Shirley, here are some pix of Turkish plants with the dates on 'em. Paige 

http://keesjan.smugmug.com/Botanical-trips/Asia 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pacific Rim" <    > 
To: "Shirley Whyte" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey 


> You're welcome. 
> 
> I wasn't talking about curiosity seekers. I was talking about guys who are 
> culturally unable to imagine that you aren't sexually depraved and fair 
> game. 
> 
> Iris: don't know whether you mean oncos, or junos, or reticulatas, or what 
> ... so I'll just leave you to do your own research. 
> 
> When you're back, share some of what you learned with the group. 
> 
> Good luck and bon voyage. 
> 
> Paige 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shirley Whyte" < [email protected] > 
> To: < [email protected] > 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:37 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey 
> 
> 
>> Thanks so much,Paige. 
>> I don't mind missing the crocuses. Many of ours here are species.  I saw 
>> lovely dwarf irises in the AGS bulletin. I will try to find when they 
>> flower. 
>> I don't mind being taken as not respectable. This has never troubled me 
>> so far. I think that being accosted by curiosity seekers and children is 
>> manageable. 
>> I am glad you mentioned the balloons. The guide book I have them says 
>> they are terrific and I wondered if it was too touristy, but then 
>> touristy does not matter if what you are doing is fun or interesting or 
>> educational or something you always wanted to try. 
>> Thanks for your advice. 
>> Shirley Whyte 
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Pacific Rim 
>>  To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society; postings copyright by 
>> authors. 
>>  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:48 AM 
>>  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey 
>> 
>> 
>>  Hello, Shirley. 
>> 
>>  No one has answered you on the list, so I will have a go. 
>> 
>>  Turkey has wonderful plants; when to visit depends on the plants that 
>>  interest you. Crocuses are already blooming at lower elevations. By May 
>> most 
>>  bulbs will be over but there will be roses, poppies and myriad other 
>> meadow 
>>  herbs and shrubs wherever there is water. And dust everywhere else. 
>> 
>>  If you Google "Turkey botanical tour," lots of tours will pop up, with 
>> hints 
>>  about plants and when and where to see them. You need not take a tour; 
>> you 
>>  could organize your own travel, as I did; but I was not travelling 
>> alone. 
>>  Travelling alone in the hinterlands of Turkey, a woman will encounter 
>>  suggestions that she is not respectable; that might make you 
>> uncomfortable, 
>>  but I doubt you'd be assaulted. Nonetheless it can be simpler to travel 
>> with 
>>  a tour group. Greentours has some botanical tours in Turkey; I haven't 
>> taken 
>>  one but I respect the guides they use there. In the rock-garden journals 
>>  many other tours are advertised. 
>> 
>>  I can't advise about plants around Ankara. I was there only once, to 
>> replace 
>>  a stolen passport, so long ago that Hittite was spoken in the streets. 
>> 
>>  Cappadocia is within reach of the Taurus Mountains, where there is 
>> excellent 
>>  botanizing. But thanks to bus and air travel, you could get to pretty 
>> well 
>>  anywhere else you wanted to visit without too much trouble. 
>> 
>>  Cappadocia itself is known mainly for its otherwordly terrain of karst 
>> and 
>>  volcanic tuff eroded into towers, castles and caves. People have lived 
>> in 
>>  the caves for millennia. Some caves were once hidden churches. Now some 
>> have 
>>  become hotels. 
>> 
>>  Kayseri, ancient Caesarea, is important mainly for its airport. Goreme 
>> has 
>>  the main historic sites, and it is where most balloon-tours begin, but I 
>>  wouldn't want to stay there because it has no life beyond tourism. I 
>> don't 
>>  know what things are like now, but in 2007 we stayed in Urgup, at the 
>> first 
>>  cave hotel in the region, Esbeli Evi, which you can find online. (There 
>> are 
>>  other good hotels now, but we did find Esbeli Evi delightful). 
>> 
>>  Balloon tours? As in Jules Verne, in baskets high, high in the sky? Yes. 
>>  There is nothing like seeing Cappadocia from the air, shadows caressing 
>> the 
>>  extraordinary terrain as the sun rises. 
>> 
>>  Paige 
>> 
>>  Paige Woodward 
>>  [email protected] 
>>  Manager 
>>  Alpenpix, the image gallery of Alpine-L 
>>  http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/?gal=alpenpix 
>> 
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Shirley Whyte" < [email protected] > 
>>  To: < [email protected] > 
>>  Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:52 AM 
>>  Subject: [Alpine-l] Plants in Turkey 
>> 
>> 
>>  > Hello, 
>>  > I will be visiting Cappadocia, and Ankara in March, April or May. 
>>  > 
>>  > In Cappadocia I will be around Goreme, Kayseri, Aksaray. 
>>  > 
>>  > While I am not on a rock garden field trip, I was wondering if I could 
>>  > expect to see any interesting plants. I would appreciate it if anyone 
>>  > could give me advice on: 
>>  > - timing of visit -- March, April or May 
>>  > - any hope of finding plants in Cappadocia or near Ankara 
>>  > - logistics: I have been warned against wandering around alone 
>>  > 
>>  > Thanks for any help you can give me. 
>>  > 
>>  > Shirley Whyte 
>>  > Montreal, Canada     Zone 5a 
>>  > 
>>  > 
>> 
>> 
>>  
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