Names are applied to persons, places, or things for identification in 
communication between individuals.  Once they are familiar to people who use 
them - say in conversation - they are perfectly effective identifiers and 
changes are, except in rare instances, unnecessary.  Accpetance of current 
taxonomic nomenclatural gyrations is fine for those who are intimately involved 
with their choreography, but are optional for those who want to grow the plants 
they have known all their lives.  It seems to me that botanical taxonomy should 
be conducted by a numerical system that the statistical machinery can easily 
understand and by which the machines that create these systems can communicate 
directly.  Such a mumerical system would allow frequent rejuggling of 
evolutionary trees without creating confusion or worse in those who actually 
work with the plants and enjoy them for their individually appealing traits.  

The needs of the gardening public and the professional taxonomists are 
different and I see no need for the communication system of one to be forced on 
the other.  Though I find the evolutionary studies of the taxonomists 
interesting, I see no need to alter the names of my friends in the garden.  I 
will continue to enjoy my Cornus each spring when it flowers and in the fall 
when the leaves turn lovely.

John Gyer  Clarksboro  NJ  USA


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kyle Baker 
  To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by 
authors. 
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Rock Garden Conifers


  I had to refer to my copy of Botanical Latin by William T. Sterns to figure 
this one out...Picea I could see, but ab - i - es,.......that one took me some 
figuring out...but then of course I'm struggling to keep up with all the new 
nomenclature....first hit me with orchids, then with the asters...then I 
discovered Chaemepericlymenem canadense to a local arboretum....for those that 
have not run into this yet this last one is Cornus canadense...all Cornus in 
the New world are no longer Cornus......oh my head

  Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
  Maine Zone 5


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  From: penstemon <[email protected]>
  To: Jim McKenney <[email protected]>; "Alpine-L, the ElectronicRock 
Garden Society; postings copyright by authors." <[email protected]> 
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Rock Garden Conifers




  >Your first statement is true for Latin; those three words ARE three syllable 
words. 


  The words are three syllable in Latin, two in English. 
  There is no linguistic—or social—justification for pronouncing botanical 
names as though they were Latin.  


  Bob Nold 
  Denver, Colorado, USA

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