Rusell - What in the world prompted that one?  For me Penstemon flower 
structure has seemed to pretty much define Scroffness.  It certainly seems a 
far cry from the Plantago stalks I used to collect to feed canaries.  Since Bob 
Nold tells me I do not have to accept of follow the New World Order - I will 
stay with the old one that makes sense to me.

John Gyer  Clarksboro NJ  USA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Russell Stafford 
  To: Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society;postings copyright by 
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  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Name Changes - was - Rock Garden Conifers


  The latest flora of New England includes some dizzying taxonomic shifts -- 
such as relocation of Penstemon from the Scrophulariaceae to the 
Plantaginaceae.  Somehow that does not facilitate the field identification 
process for me. 

  Russell

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