Q: What sort of certification program would I not laugh at? A: A certification program that produced not (just) a certificate the person could list on a resume, but an actual *Product*
Q: Who should be allowed into said certification program? A: Anyone willing to pay the money. Q: Who should be granted the certificate? A: Only those who create a legitimate Product. Q: What constitutes a legitimate Product? A: Something that the person is more excited to show me that Product than the Certificate. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]>wrote: > Robin: Thanks for the input. That's a great point that I've struggled with > in the past as well. > > Tim: I agree they're doing it wrong and, at least in this one small way, > I'm in a position to help change that. What can I do to give you warm > fuzzies? :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > <rant>Honestly, I couldn't care less about anything CS-related at UW. I > inquired re: their professional Master's in CS and was basically told to go > fly a kite - that I wasn't a viable candidate as my bachelor's was not in > CS. Apparently 8 years experience as a professional doesn't count for much > toward a "professional" degree. Jus' sayin'... They're doin' it > wrong.</rant> > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Robin Clowers <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I think this is awesome, I hope it takes off. I have been dabbling in >> Ruby for quite some time and the thing that has caused me the most >> headaches it trying to run it on Windows. I think a good foundation >> in *nix is really important for anyone that is going to be doing >> serious ruby development. >> >> >> On Apr 21, 9:40 pm, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Straight up: We all laugh at programming certifications. >> > >> > I recently became involved in UW beginning to create a new Ruby >> > Certification program in an attempt to help change that. >> > >> > The main thing I'm pushing for right now is for the purpose of each >> > and every class to be to add to a student's portfolio. The idea being >> > that a certificate is just a piece of paper, programmers want to see >> > concrete evidence that you can engineer solutions. >> > >> > Given this, I think these classes may be of interest to several of you >> > and I want your input. What would get you psyched to take a course >> > like this? If you're looking to switch to Ruby development, what are >> > your impediments and frictions? >> > >> > We always complain about certifications and how the universities "Just >> > Don't Get It" (tm), so now let's take a moment to propose >> > improvements. :) >> > >> > Justin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en.
