Just to correct my language, it is a certificate and NOT a certification (sorry for the confusion).
Ok so the tact I'm taking on it then sounds appropriate it seems. By the time you get the certificate you should be more proud of your portfolio of projects and apps built than by the cheesy piece of paper. Thanks Tim! I appreciate your rant. On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: Q: What sort of certification program would I not laugh at? A: A certification program that produced not (just) a certificate the person could list on a resume, but an actual *Product* Q: Who should be allowed into said certification program? A: Anyone willing to pay the money. Q: Who should be granted the certificate? A: Only those who create a legitimate Product. Q: What constitutes a legitimate Product? A: Something that the person is more excited to show me that Product than the Certificate. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]>wrote: > Robin: Thanks for the input. That's a great point that I've struggled with > in the past as well. > > Tim: I agree they're doing it wrong and, at least in this one small way, > I'm in a position to help change that. What can I do to give you warm > fuzzies? :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > > <rant>Honestly, I couldn't care less about anything CS-related at UW. I > inquired re: their professional Master's in CS and was basically told to go > fly a kite - that I wasn't a viable candidate as my bachelor's was not in > CS. Apparently 8 years experience as a professional doesn't count for much > toward a "professional" degree. Jus' sayin'... They're doin' it > wrong.</rant> > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Robin Clowers <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I think this is awesome, I hope it takes off. I have been dabbling in >> Ruby for quite some time and the thing that has caused me the most >> headaches it trying to run it on Windows. I think a good foundation >> in *nix is really important for anyone that is going to be doing >> serious ruby development. >> >> >> On Apr 21, 9:40 pm, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Straight up: We all laugh at programming certifications. >> > >> > I recently became involved in UW beginning to create a new Ruby >> > Certification program in an attempt to help change that. >> > >> > The main thing I'm pushing for right now is for the purpose of each >> > and every class to be to add to a student's portfolio. The idea being >> > that a certificate is just a piece of paper, programmers want to see >> > concrete evidence that you can engineer solutions. >> > >> > Given this, I think these classes may be of interest to several of you >> > and I want your input. What would get you psyched to take a course >> > like this? If you're looking to switch to Ruby development, what are >> > your impediments and frictions? >> > >> > We always complain about certifications and how the universities "Just >> > Don't Get It" (tm), so now let's take a moment to propose >> > improvements. :) >> > >> > Justin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en.
