Hi,

There are some discussions ongoing around something called flow metadata, 
associated with draft-eckert-intarea-flow-metadata-framework, that I think head 
somehow in that direction.

Be goode,

On 28 Oct 2013, at 10:54 , Reinaldo Penno (repenno) wrote:

> I also think seedorf-lmap is a very interesting draft.
>
> But what I'm most interested in a way to make maps writable.  I want an app 
> to be be able to write to a map therefore influencing its own cost and 
> attributes.
>
> From: Greg Bernstein <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, October 28, 2013 10:48 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [alto] extension questions and comments
>
> Hi ALTO extension folks, as I'll not be making it up to Vancouver :-( , here 
> are some questions/comments.
> These comments/questions are from the perspective of creating an ALTO 
> topology service (suitable for large bandwidth and SDN applications).
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-scharf-alto-vpn-service-01
> ALTO for VPNs: Way back when we started talking about "topology" like 
> extensions. The concept of ALTO for "controlled or partially controlled" 
> environments was floated. It seems that a VPN type of service would be the 
> exemplar of such an environment and hence pave the way for "restricted 
> environment" use of ALTO.  Questions:  Are there specific additions to the 
> REST API to offer this some kind of security, i.e., to keep others from 
> gaining information about a customers VPN? Or would a general approach to 
> security of this interface be specified?
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-song-alto-overlay-routing-00
> Extensions for Multiple path choices: In our large bandwidth work we 
> considered both path representations as well as graph representations. This 
> proposal would extend ALTO by reporting costs on multiple possible paths 
> between a source and destination. Hence could also work for the large 
> bandwidth case with appropriate extensions.  Both in this draft and the VPN 
> draft, we may have the situation where the client uses ALTO information to 
> not only make a choice but then relay that choice back to the network via 
> some type of "reservation interface".
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wu-alto-te-metrics-00
> Defines costs metrics based on OSPF-TE. We would need for such metrics for 
> the "general" topology service.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roome-alto-pid-properties-00
> PID properties -- Comments: This is a step on the way to a "NID" that we 
> would use in a graph topology (multi-switch) representation, i.e., where we'd 
> define a Node with Id and properties.
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seedorf-lmap-alto-02, 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seedorf-cdni-fci-alto-00
> Very interesting applications. Any interest from the authors of these drafts 
> in bandwidth/topology type information?
> Best Regards
> Greg B.
>
>
> On 10/22/2013 1:02 PM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:
>> Folks: As you prepare slides, etc. for your ALTO extensions, please
>> consult the latest institutional memory on how to taxonomize or classify
>> the extensions; this was captured rather succinctly and successfully
>> during the Berlin IETF side meeting [1].
>>
>> Enrico and I will be looking to see how we can group the various
>> extensions under this ontology.  It will make it tractable to understand
>> and appreciate the extensions as we grapple with them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> [1] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/minutes/minutes-87-alto#ad-hoc
>>
>> - vijay
>
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