On 10/29/13 9:01 AM, "Vijay K. Gurbani" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 10/28/2013 11:13 PM, Reinaldo Penno (repenno) wrote:
>> In the particular fcc MBA context, a concrete example is to change the
>> subscriber tier (end point property). But since you mentioned map, I
>> guess you are saying e2e (e.g.,  more narrowly bounded app flow).
>>
>> [RP] hummmŠNot necessarily e2e. If I write to a map and change the cost
>> of reaching  the IP address associated with my application,  I need to
>> be put in a different PID.  I believe the same is true for endpoint
>> properties if you want to actually influence the cost map.
>
>Reinaldo: Interesting ... you are proposing an alto.put() mutator,
>whereas what we have now is mostly alto.get() accessors.
>
>Once we do this, we are perilously close to sdn/i2rs type of thinking
>(I think).  

Right

>However, if I understand you correctly, you are advocating
>a bounded alto.put() functionality ... perhaps an endpoint migrating to
>a different PID.  I don't think you are advocating a wholesale
>application-specified state insertion into the network.

Something like that: "Is there a PID with low latency? I want to be
there". The app itself does not need to know anything about the network
per se. 

>
>The use of ALTO in scenarios that require changing the basic networking
>plumbing has been discussed in academic papers, at least (at the cost of
>a self reference, see [1]).  There has been some discussion in the ALTO
>mailing list of such functionality as well, but to date my impression
>is that such discussion has been limited due to the overlap between
>sdn/i2rs type of work.
>
>[1] Gurbani, V.K., Scharf, M., Lakshman, T.V. and Hilt, V.,
>  "Abstracting network state in Software Defined Networks (SDN) for
>  rendezvous services," accepted for publication. In Workshop on
>  Software Defined Networks (SDN), held in conjunction with IEEE
>  International Conference on Communications (ICC), pp. 6627-6632, June
>  2012.


Will read it sir.

>
>Thanks,
>
>- vijay
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