Hi Chris;

Hmmm..... well the logical question is did the two holes on either
side if the camera shroud ever function correctly ? i.e. Were they
occluded in any way by the switches or was the air pressure
non-laminar ? If so, then you really only had two holes total; one of
which could have been momentarily blocked.

Best regards;

Bob Finch



On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Chris Attebery
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> There were 4x 1/4" holes in the altimeter bay. One on each side of the
> camera shroud for the screw switches and two more spaced 120 degrees from
> the center line of the camera shroud.
>
> My theory is that the camera shroud caused some sort of pressure wave after
> it hit mach. The pressure doesn't seem to change from 3.5 seconds until 5
> seconds even though the rocket is traveling ~1100ft/sec. Then a quarter
> second after it passes back though mach at ~5.25 seconds there is a pressure
> spike. There is another pressure spike at ~6.5 seconds and that is when
> everything went down hill.
>
> You're required to use redundant electronics for your L3 flight. Next time
> I'll use something that is accelerometer based so I don't have to worry
> about these issues.
>
> BTW: I figured out how to use the zoom functions in AltOS last night after I
> posted this. I took a snapshot of the portion of the data relevant to this
> discussion.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:23 AM, w9ya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Um..... I like to have THREE pressure ports....i.e. just in case.
>> Here's how (and why):
>>
>> It seems that this flight qualified as a "just in case" scenario. I
>> generally make each hole .67-1.0 the size of the specified size of the
>> single hole specification, all of them the same actual size, and space
>> them equally around the circumference of the body. The idea being that
>> while one hole can/may be "blocked" to incoming air pressure, blocking
>> two of the three holes should not happen.
>>
>> I am guessing the hole located near the camera shroud was the problem.
>>
>> Best regards;
>>
>> Bob Finch
>>
>> P.S.... I am big fan of backup electronics but I almost never actually
>> use more than one altimeter for deployment. Good electronic bay
>> modelling along with good electronics seems to negate the need for me.
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Keith Packard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Chris Attebery <[email protected]> writes:
>> >
>> >> I've attached a rendering of the altimeter bay and camera shroud. In
>> >> hindsight I should have sealed the camera in a separate bay from the
>> >> altimeters. I would probably stretch the rocket a bit more to get some
>> >> separation between the electronic and the camera shroud. I need to look
>> >> into getting a second accelerometer based altimeter for backup too.
>> >
>> > Hrm. Thinking about this some more, is it possible that the rocket went
>> > sideways? It's really hard to make an ebay airtight enough so that a
>> > plugged static port would read a steady, and even increasing pressure
>> > while the rocket was still going up. If there was some major structure
>> > failure near motor burn out, I would have expected to see more noise in
>> > the acceleration data though, so it would have had to be a fairly gentle
>> > failure mode.
>> >
>> > --
>> > -keith
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