I think that explains what happened to one of my rockets a couple of years ago 
that was lost (fortunately for only a couple of weeks).  But speaking of the 
Alamosa site - that is the one I was trying to get on the list of known launch 
sites so it would show up in the TeleGPS or AltosUI app.  I sent to 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Do I need to re-send those 
coordinates or do something else?

regards,
Charlie

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Bdale Garbee <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jesse Frey <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> At the Alamosa launch last weekend, I had my TeleMetrum reset after
>> the apogee charge was fired. I suspect this could be related to my AV
>> bay coming apart.
> 
>> What was troubling was that AltosDroid did not seem to give me a range
>> to the rocket or directions on the "Recover" screen.
> 
> If the power got interrupted as the apogee charge fired, and then
> restores, the board will "reboot".  If the rocket is no longer nose-up
> at that point (they're usually nearly horizontal at apogee), the board
> is going to power up in idle mode instead of pad mode, and thus won't be
> transmitting.  And if AltosDroid never sees packets during descent, it'll
> have a hard time telling you where to look...
> 
>> My question is why did tracking not work and could I have done
>> anything to find it had I not been able to see it all the way down?
> 
> If the board is powered up but in idle mode, it's possible that if you
> get "near" it, you can use monitor idle to "ping" it and find out where
> it thinks it is.  However, UHF communication links can be challenging
> when the airframe is flat on the ground, or in a ditch, or behind a
> bunch of ground clutter.
> 
> The other thing you can do is get the .telem file off your phone and
> onto a laptop, and either look at the flight in the plotting code, or
> export it and look at it either in a spreadsheet or in Google Earth.  If
> you can see the trajectory the rocket was following at apogee before the
> power went out, and think a bit about the wind, you can often estimate
> where it might have touched down and use that as the starting point for
> a search grid.  Keith and I have done that for our own projects a time
> or two with success.
> 
> The short answer, honestly, is "losing power at apogee is really bad,
> try not to have that happen".  This is also one of the reasons it's
> never a bad idea to have redundant electronics in any project flying
> high enough to go out of sight or potentially be challenging to recover.
> 
> I hope that helps!  Feel free to ask if you have more questions.
> 
> Bdale
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