Hmm...Jon's question got me to a'thnkin' about something that I haven't yet
read about.

So let's say the dump cycle is 30 days and I want to keep a copy of the
previous month's dump before the tape1 gets overwritten so that I can keep
a record of the state of the database from two months ago.

If I understand the terminology, this would be an archive?

So a strategy might be: on the 30th day, do a full dump, and copy it to
'somewhere safe', whether on S3, or a DVD.    That seems like a pretty
straight-forward concept, but might this idea be improved upon somehow?

I just finished reading O'Reilly's Backup and Restore (a very disappointing
book) that only brushed over some strategies, and Google seems to show me
only the same few pages on how to setup a config with only a topical
discussion about scheduling.

Anyway, thanks for your responses and ideas!


--
Andrius


On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Andrius D. Ilgunas <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hey Jon,
>
> I would expect them to be network-type speeds on a T1 even as the buckets
> are mounted via FUSE.  I don't have numbers, but I can say that a copy of
> one of my databases to /mnt/s3/bucket1 of around 250MB will timeout
> approximately 30% of the time.  But I'm sure that copying over incremental
> changes, either via amanda or rsync would be successful.
>
> At this time, my holding disk (two 2TB drives - zfs mirrored) is
> sufficient to contain two or three full dumps of / of both clients that I'm
> interested in backing up, and probably will be for another year or so - the
> data growth is expected to be around 7% annually.
>
> And now that I brought that up, I haven't yet considered any kind of
> long-term archiving. One step at a time though.
>
>
>
> --
> Andrius
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Jon LaBadie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:29:27AM -0800, Andrius D. Ilgunas wrote:
>> > Thanks a brazillion Charles!!
>> >
>> > I'll probably setup my systems likewise, but I wonder if anyone has any
>> > other opinions on this.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andrius
>>
>> What kind of write speed to S3 can you expect?
>> Can your backups to holding disk exceed that by a sufficient
>> amount that holding disk capacity might be a problem?
>>
>> Jon
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Charles Curley <
>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:44:07 -0800
>> > > "Andrius D. Ilgunas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > We're setting up amanda on our servers, and the primary backup is
>> > > > going to be on a dedicated disk/virtual tapes.  One of the offsite
>> > > > locations is going to be a bucket on Amazon's S3.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now I see that amanda has the capability of writing to multiple
>> > > > volumes in parallel, but I'm wondering if it would be more efficient
>> > > > to have amada write the backup to the localdisk first and then use
>> > > > rsync to mirror that backup onto the S3 bucket.
>> > > >
>> > > > Or would it be a better idea to have amanda manage both
>> > > > "tapechangers"?
>> > > >
>> > > > Any discussion would be most welcome!
>> > >
>> > > What I do is similar to your first proposal. I back up to virtual
>> > > tapes, then rsync to external hard drive for off site backup.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://charlescurley.com/blog/articles/off_site_backups_for_amanda/index.html
>> > >
>> > > You probably want to save the metadata so that restores from offsite
>> > > will be easier.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://charlescurley.com/blog/articles/backing_up_amanda_metadata/index.html
>> > >
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