On Tuesday 02 October 2018 14:15:25 Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:

> On 2018-10-02 13:29, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 October 2018 12:34:40 Ashwin Krishna wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> We propose to have the call on Oct 8th at 11 AM Mountain Time.
> >>
> >> Agenda:
> >> *  Zmanda's Acquisition by BETSOL
> >> *  Attendee Introductions
> >> *  Existing Governance Model of Amanda Community
> >> *  Suggested changes to the Governance Model
> >> *  BETSOL's Commitment to Open Source Community
> >>
> >> We have taken a note of all the suggestions received on the mailing
> >> list and we will go through the same on the call.
> >>
> >> Meeting Details:
> >> Amanda Open Source Community Discussion
> >> Mon, Oct 8, 2018 11:00 AM - 12:00 PM MDT
> >> Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
> >> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/438069045
> >> You can also dial in using your phone.
> >> United States: +1 (786) 535-3211
> >> Access Code: 438-069-045
> >> First GoToMeeting? Let's do a quick system check:
> >> https://link.gotomeeting.com/system-check
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ashwin Krishna
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nathan Stratton Treadway <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:01 PM
> >> To: Ashwin Krishna <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Zmanda acquired from Carbonite by BETSOL -- future of
> >> Amanda development?
> >>
> >> Ashwin, thanks very much for getting in contact with the Amanda
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 06:16:02 +0000, Ashwin Krishna wrote:
> >>> We are 100% committed to the open source community and will be
> >>> contributing to the code base to the best of our abilities.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> I want to assure you that we are actively investing in growing
> >>> Amanda and we have young enthusiastic engineers in the team.
> >>>
> >>> You can expect the next Amanda releases to include support for
> >>> newer versions of operating systems, defect fixes, security
> >>> enhancements etc.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> We have retained the team members that we could of previous Zmanda
> >>> team. I can tell you that it's not easy without support from the
> >>> community members. We encourage the community members to guide and
> >>> contribute as much as you can. If you need commit access to the
> >>> code base, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. You can
> >>> expect our commitment and support to you.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 22:54:02 +0000, Ashwin Krishna wrote:
> >>> We are planning to host a conference call and would like all the
> >>> active admins and community members to join to have a discussion
> >>> with the Zmanda team at BETSOL regarding future collaborations.
> >>>
> >>> Will be sending out the meeting details (US time) with the agenda
> >>> later.
> >>
> >> It sounds like getting the new BETSOL team in direct contact with
> >> the admins for the mailing list and other amanda.org-related
> >> resources in an important step at this point.
> >>
> >>
> >> However, I would say that for many of us here on the list, the most
> >> notable change in the past 7 months is not related those things
> >> (which have continued to chug along as before), but rather the lack
> >> of "a developer" to move things along here on the public lists and
> >> in the public source repo.
> >>
> >> A decade or two ago it sounds like there were a number of
> >> developers involved, but more recently it's just been one or two
> >> Zmanda people who have served that role.
> >>
> >> Obviously this could be a good time to reconsider this arrangement
> >> if there are in fact other people ready to jump in, but off hand
> >> I'm guessing that what's likely to work going forward is for there
> >> to be a small number of BETSOL developers back in that role.
> >>
> >> As an Amanda user who has tried to contribute back a few
> >> improvements to the code line, I'm not really looking to have
> >> direct commit access myself, but rather hope to get back to someone
> >> (hanging out here on the mailing lists) who can take the patches I
> >> came up with hacking around on my own system and understand whether
> >> or not they will really work for everyone, and who will know which
> >> branches should have that change pushed onto them, and what tweaks
> >> are needed to make the patch apply to some older branch, etc.
> >>
> >> So, here's hoping you all at BETSOL are soon able to identify
> >> someone/a few people to take over that function, and patches and
> >> discussions can start flowing again....
> >>
> >>                                            Nathan
> >>
> >> p.s. Personally I'd say that, rather than than a new major release
> >> with support for newer versions of operating systems and whatnot.,
> >> more urgent would be a minor release to gather up the handful of
> >> bugfixes which have already been discussed since 3.5.1 came out and
> >> get them published as part of an official release....
> >
> > +10, the 3.3.7p1 planner in particular is in serious need of help.
> > It refuses to adjust the schedule of the 3 largest members of my
> > disklist, choosing instead to do all three level 0's on the same
> > run, so a 30 gig average backup, has become 24 gigs for many nights,
> > followed by a 60+ gig run using 3 vtapes. 5 or 6 tapelist cycles in
> > a row now. I'd build this mythical 3.5.1 but its been hidden
> > someplace my browsing has not found.
>
> You should be able to get 3.5.1 here:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda/files/amanda%20-%20stable/3.5.
>1/
>
> That said, 3.5.1 doesn't seem to be much better based on my
> experience. I've got a backup set at work handling about 600GB of data
> with about four of the 132 DLE's accounting for roughly 20% of the
> total size, and the only way I've found to keep Amanda (regardless of
> versions I've tested) from running level zero backups for all four of
> those DLE's at the same time and taking far too long to push them out
> to S3 is to manually track the dump cycles and force run each of them
> on a separate day within about 5 dumps of when they would all be up
> again, which is obviously not a reasonable solution (part of the point
> of using Amanda in the first place is so we don't have to babysit the
> backup system).

I agree, got it, built and installed it, now have a string of this as 
return from an amcheck:

ERROR: coyote: selfcheck request failed: file/dir '/usr/local/etc' 
(/usr/local/etc/amanda-security.conf) is writable by the group
ERROR: shop: selfcheck request failed: file/dir '/usr/local/etc' 
(/usr/local/etc/amanda-security.conf) is writable by the group
ERROR: lathe: selfcheck request failed: file/dir '/usr/local/etc' 
(/usr/local/etc/amanda-security.conf) is writable by the group
ERROR: GO704: selfcheck request failed: file/dir '/usr/local/etc' 
(/usr/local/etc/amanda-security.conf) is writable by the group
ERROR: picnc: selfcheck request failed: file/dir '/usr/local/etc' 
(/usr/local/etc/amanda-security.conf) is writable by the group
Client check: 5 hosts checked in 11.356 seconds.  5 problems found.

owner:group is as shown in the man page, with perms=-rw-r--r--.

owner:group is amanda:disk except that file is root:root

A puzzle I need to solve by around 1:30 in the morning when the real run 
starts. Or shut down my backups.

The man page says its to be in /etc/amanda, but since this is a local 
build, its in /usr/local/etc/amanda.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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