Hi,

I may be coming into this discussion to late. Please take me with a grain of salt, I'm vocal about this topic.

We've used vendor products as adjunct machines for spam and virus filtering. We thought the other products would bring value and give us some more time. That just didn't happen. We spent all the time we were supposed to save (and more) managing the vendor relationship. Trying to get features added to the product was a pain in the keester. Vendors can make some broad brushed assumptions about spam, I'm only interested in blocking authentic UCE; local practice should define UCE, not a vendor. We are now using postfix+amavisd-new+clamd...works awesome. We are a small shop and only process 80k to 150k messages per day. Less than 15k messages each day are legit mail and we've had less than 10 user complaints of false positives in 8 months...awesome, awesome, awesome results.

My experiential talking points for not using an appliance for spam and virus scanning:

+ A vendor product can never give the quick reaction time that an open platform can bring.
       + The larger and more popular the vendor the worse it gets.
+ Leave the "standard" packages and higher pricing usually offsets any savings. + Leave the "standard" configuration and it probably won't be as reliable. + The fine people on this list can provide more real world experience that a corporate R/D department. + If decision makers want to compare apples to apples then they need to go through the history of lists like this and make and understand all the cool/effective/creative solutions provided here. + When a vendor discontinues a product you essentially lose the value you purchased. If you use an open product you can recycle the experience and knowledge. Hands on knowledge never depreciates.

Granted, open source projects/applications have a steep learning curve. The best efficiencies are always realized with familiarity and more knowledge, not less knowledge. Unfortunately, everybody wants something for nothing and sales people are trained to sell...I've been one, don't flame me. :)

Take this for what its worth. I find that if I talk about open source implementation challenges people get nervous quick. As a geek, its best to keep the engineering/implementation challenges and associated discussions in the right arena. The "big office" types only like to hear about solutions.

Outsourcing spam and virus scanning is a false economy. Don't drink the cool aid.

Andy

Rocco Scappatura wrote:

Hello,

During this days my company starts to investigate about the possibility to
adopt an appliance to replace amavisd-new... :(

The main reason is the difficult to manage spam traffic with SA. I have
faith and I don't think that the appliance that we choice for test purpouse
(Netasq f100) wouldn't be better...

Is there anyone who can explain me some good reason to continue to use
Amavisd-new in place of every other appliance that perform virus and spam
scanning?

Many thanx,

rocsca



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