Yes I can see that. I tend to give up very quickly on games like tomb raider, when it appears that I am not going to get anywhere fast. I also don't see computer games as recreational as I sit at the screen for about 8 hours a day and I can't understand how staying there any longer can be a relaxation. Invigiliating JODI's piece at CCA I quite often put down my book to see if I could get the colours to change or the get through a void. The inevitability of losing seemed to make it okay to participate even if you are crap at it.
Lucy --- Simon Yuill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that's a good point Lucy. What I think JODI > are trying to do, > however, is encourage you to forget about "playing" > the game and just > enjoy the audio-visual experience, the kinetics of > the whole thing. > > It's almost impossible to play their messed up Quake > games and that is > deliberate. > > When I spoke to them about it they told me that they > were crap at games > anyway, and, as Gair says, weren't very interested > in them ... so, in a > way "untitled game" suggests an alternative way for > enjoying games for > those of us who always get knocked out in the first > five minutes. > > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Lucy wrote: > > > in response to the JODI 'untitled game'..... > > > > Computer games can be quite an elusive and > exclusive > > format. Having to understand the concept of your > > mission, master the controls and your thought > process, > > can be baffling and off putting. Taking this > further > > away from instinctive action through fragmenting > the > > programming and visual imagery perhaps pushes the > > potential gamer/viewer further away. > > > > lucy > > > > > > --- Gair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Less than enthusiastic response to the games > theme, > > > no? > > > > > > I think the parallel question of why curators > are so > > > interested in it is > > > quite interesting. > > > In the case of the national Museum, it's quitre > > > simple. > > > Paying punters through the door and a > pre-packaged > > > show which makes life easier. > > > But what about new media curators, that shadowy > > > species? > > > Perhaps the mantra of populism, of reaching new > > > audiences etc etc has > > > reached into cyberland. > > > Perhaps they wish that the body of artists > working > > > with new media was > > > different to what it is, and would like to > > > constitute another one. > > > More seriously, i think it might be related to a > > > feeling that art has to > > > relate to a social structure- and that the > relevant > > > structure for new > > > media is that of the game in that it constitutes > a > > > collective > > > interaction, a shared dream/fantasy. > > > But the problem is that the Game constitutes a > > > collective without a > > > "socius", without a reflexive space... > > > > > > I've met Jodi, they're nice people. But the > response > > > I have to their > > > work is "so what?" > > > > > > what is the use of a tactical refusal in a > context > > > where you're either > > > playing or not? > > > > > > anyway perhaps debate about games is just as > > > uninteresting as gamelife itself... > > > > > > see you around, G > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > a m b i t : networking media arts in scotland > > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > archive: http://www.mediascot.org/ambit > > > info: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > and write "info ambit" in the message body > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ===== > > Web site : www.itchyfingers.org > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------- > > a m b i t : networking media arts in scotland > > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > archive: http://www.mediascot.org/ambit > > info: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > and write "info ambit" in the message body > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > a m b i t : networking media arts in scotland > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > archive: http://www.mediascot.org/ambit > info: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and write "info ambit" in the message body > ------------------------------------------------- ===== Web site : www.itchyfingers.org __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------- a m b i t : networking media arts in scotland post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archive: http://www.mediascot.org/ambit info: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and write "info ambit" in the message body -------------------------------------------------
