Careful with
compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static
electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]net>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> Hi Yuki:
>
> My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the accumulation,
> rather than
> risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a
> vacuum
> cleaner or poking around with a
> toothpick.
> I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment and the
> gas
> is said to be non ozone depleting.
> DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
>
> Best regards
> JOE
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yuki Taga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]att.ne.jp>
> To: "Keith McCombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>
>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
>>
>> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
>> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
>> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing off,
>> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
>>
>> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of
>> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What
>> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain over the
>> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on
>> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
>> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for. There
>> are no more curtains, but I can see dust.
>>
>> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always
>> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
>> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit
>> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor deal.
>>
>> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its ambient,
>> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it
>> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any longer. It
>> gives me board and CPU temps, however.
>>
>> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go,
>> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long
>> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been
>> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just fails,
>> that is most likely the seat of the problem.
>>
>> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum
>> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that
>> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action from it's
>> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
>> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
>> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can
>> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing along with
>> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious what was
>> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once
>> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more dust in
>> there.
>>
>> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be pretty
>> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz).
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> Yuki
>>
>> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a
small
>> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records
>> temperatures.
>> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems
>> (computer
>> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
cleaning the
>> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan and
cpu,
>> but
>> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two years
of
>> dust
>> KM> bunnies out of it.
>>
>> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C.
Normally the CPU
>> runs
>> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
>>
>> KM> Hope this helps.
>> KM> -- Keith
>>
>> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up
being
>>>> the fan
>>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated.
In the
>>>> ohter
>>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool.
>>>>
>>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Rik Rasmussen
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuki
>>
>>
>>
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