Hello,

You people don't seem to realise that I am THE ONLY PERSON who works on 
AmiBroker code.
The day has only 24 hours and one person has only two hands.
Now if even few people ouf of 8000 users submit "ideas" everyday, no matter 
what I do I can not implement
them IMMEDIATELLY.

And no, I can not hire 2 more programmers because then I would need to rise the 
cost of the program 3 times
and then everyone would scream that it is too expensive and will walk away. 
Then it would mean the end of product.

So, considering that I am the ONLY DEVELOPER of AmiBroker and wrote everything 
from scratch with my own hands, I can say that:
a) I am doing more than anyone in this business to make customers happy
b) I am implementing MORE features/user requests/ideas than anyone else in this 
business
c) I am going an extra mile with responding PERSONALLY on the public mailing 
list to many of your posts.

I can not do MORE than I am doing now. It is physically impossible for anyone.

So, if I tell you that I am going to check things, I will do that, but this is 
all subject to TIME and PHYSICAL ABILITY constraints.

Pushing the string does not help at all. It makes things worse.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wavemechanic 
  To: AmiBroker, User 
  Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...


  Dennis:

  I completely agree with your overall assessment and know that at least 
several users also completely or partially agree but may or may not respond - 
so you are not alone.  Much has been said through the years on the Yahoo 
board/AB website/support mail about bugs, "clunkiness", and desired/necessary 
features.  Because of the type of problems that you mentioned (I am also 
indicator mode oriented), I use the EOD version of AB and then only at "half 
throttle" because my applications and programming needs are not as extensive as 
that of a number of other AB users.  Like you, I use broker supplied and 
personal software for RT streaming and charting studies (no "shoe" fits all).  
These issues, however, are not restricted to AB as evidenced by a recent review 
on another board where the user compared AB/Metastock/Tradestation/Blocks and 
ended up (as I understand) with a Blocks package that includes 
charting/streaming data/EOD data/backtesting/useful standard features - so 
things are evolving.

  Bill
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dennis Brown 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:12 AM
    Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...


    Friends,

    AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things.  In fact I use only  
    a fraction of its total capability for my trading style.  I trade only  
    single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems just  
    in AFL in indicator mode.  This is actually more like the traditional  
    chart trading that is offered by many brokers.

    I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a very  
    basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting  
    programs.

    However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I think  
    potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation  
    bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this product  
    for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading.  In fact, I  
    need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same  
    ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB would  
    be superior at this if it were not for the bugs.  This has been going  
    on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.

    I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the  
    last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me when  
    they figure out that these basic features don't work properly.  I have  
    actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while -- 
    hoping these things would be fixed first.

    I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same bugs,  
    but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows that  
    this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher  
    priority on getting the study charting to work properly.

    Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on the  
    suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that  
    cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation  
    that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration and  
    emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the line  
    drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the trigger  
    point for a trade.  If I have missed any that you feel are costing you  
    profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them to  
    the conversation.

    #726.  Handles from a selected study line are not respected.  Often  
    several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points.   
    Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common pivot  
    point.  However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more  
    important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time.  It is easy  
    to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is unique,  
    and the handles will appear along the line.  However, unlike any other  
    charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the  
    visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study  
    crosses very close to that handle.  The problem is that AB will grab  
    the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un-select  
    the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead.   
    After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the  
    right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its  
    current location and reposition all its handles.  Very frustrating and  
    takes the time and concentration away from the trading action.

    #728.  Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal.  The horizontal  
    lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on.   
    They just are placed at the cursor level.  However, if you click on  
    the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the left  
    side of the screen.  Its operation is just bizarre and causes errors  
    in placement of the price level after the fact.  Completely  
    unacceptable behavior for trading.

    #890.  Study handles change when off screen.  Lets say you have the  
    magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two peaks.   
    Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand  
    handle is visible on the chart.  Now say the prices have advanced to a  
    new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak (this  
    is a very common occurrence).  Most of the time, that handle that is  
    off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak  
    you selected.  Of course that changes the slope of the trend line to  
    the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up  
    placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place  
    now.  Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.

    #990.  Drag shadow is on the wrong bar.  When dragging a study, there  
    is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the  
    handles to.  However, when the mouse is released, the study gets moved  
    to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow.  This wastes  
    valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong bar  
    to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it.  This  
    is an annoyance.

    And here is one more that I just found today.  If I draw trend lines  
    on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute view,  
    the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars.  And heaven help  
    me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these  
    wrong bars.

    There you have my short list.  Please speak up if these issues affect  
    you.

    Best regards,
    Dennis



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