If people use feedback center and vote for fixes and suggestions then I think Tomasz would have a good idea on how to prioritize his time. >From my perspective I hope he does not spend a second on the stuff that you are complaining about. They have no relevance to my work. I much prefer to see enhancements to AA.
--- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tomasz, > > I am very aware of the limitations of one person --I have that problem > myself --just ask my wife. > I waited a long time and considered carefully before posting the > original post here. > I was trying to be careful to mention only those things that are a > real problem that are affecting my ability to earn a living trading > with AB. > > There are many things that I would like to see added to AFL, and there > are some bugs that are rare and difficult to reproduce or things that > I can work around, but the things mentioned here are those that affect > everyone to some degree and are also an embarrassment to me personally > when I recommend AB to others who rely on studies. > > I am satisfied when you say that you will look into the matter now > that I have stated my case for the need. > I invited others to comment so that we would know if my needs are > unique and therefore of lower priority for you, and in case I missed > an important point. I know when you look into an area, you like to > take care of several things at once if possible. > > Everyone appreciates ALL you do for your users. > > Sometimes you need to have well organized feedback (and not just > random pot shots all mixed together) to make sense of the synergistic > affects of many related subjects so you can gage how to pick which > things will have the most beneficial effects for your customer friends. > > Just relax and let this thread play out so that all the issues in this > particular one can be understood. Then you can decide what should be > done and what priority to give it. I am doing this in a helpful frame > of mind, but with a real feeling of need on my part. > > Best regards, > Dennis > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > You people don't seem to realise that I am THE ONLY PERSON who works > > on AmiBroker code. > > The day has only 24 hours and one person has only two hands. > > Now if even few people ouf of 8000 users submit "ideas" everyday, no > > matter what I do I can not implement > > them IMMEDIATELLY. > > > > And no, I can not hire 2 more programmers because then I would need > > to rise the cost of the program 3 times > > and then everyone would scream that it is too expensive and will > > walk away. Then it would mean the end of product. > > > > So, considering that I am the ONLY DEVELOPER of AmiBroker and wrote > > everything from scratch with my own hands, I can say that: > > a) I am doing more than anyone in this business to make customers > > happy > > b) I am implementing MORE features/user requests/ideas than anyone > > else in this business > > c) I am going an extra mile with responding PERSONALLY on the public > > mailing list to many of your posts. > > > > I can not do MORE than I am doing now. It is physically impossible > > for anyone. > > > > So, if I tell you that I am going to check things, I will do that, > > but this is all subject to TIME and PHYSICAL ABILITY constraints. > > > > Pushing the string does not help at all. It makes things worse. > > > > Best regards, > > Tomasz Janeczko > > amibroker.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wavemechanic > > To: AmiBroker, User > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs... > > > > Dennis: > > > > I completely agree with your overall assessment and know that at > > least several users also completely or partially agree but may or > > may not respond - so you are not alone. Much has been said through > > the years on the Yahoo board/AB website/support mail about bugs, > > "clunkiness", and desired/necessary features. Because of the type > > of problems that you mentioned (I am also indicator mode oriented), > > I use the EOD version of AB and then only at "half throttle" because > > my applications and programming needs are not as extensive as that > > of a number of other AB users. Like you, I use broker supplied and > > personal software for RT streaming and charting studies (no "shoe" > > fits all). These issues, however, are not restricted to AB as > > evidenced by a recent review on another board where the user > > compared AB/Metastock/Tradestation/Blocks and ended up (as I > > understand) with a Blocks package that includes charting/streaming > > data/EOD data/backtesting/useful standard features - so things are > > evolving. > > > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dennis Brown > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:12 AM > > Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs... > > > > Friends, > > > > AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use only > > a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade only > > single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems just > > in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the traditional > > chart trading that is offered by many brokers. > > > > I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a very > > basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting > > programs. > > > > However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I think > > potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation > > bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this product > > for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In fact, I > > need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same > > ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB would > > be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been going > > on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. > > > > I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the > > last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me when > > they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I have > > actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while -- > > hoping these things would be fixed first. > > > > I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same bugs, > > but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows that > > this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher > > priority on getting the study charting to work properly. > > > > Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on the > > suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that > > cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation > > that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration and > > emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the line > > drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the trigger > > point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are costing you > > profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them to > > the conversation. > > > > #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. Often > > several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points. > > Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common pivot > > point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more > > important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is easy > > to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is unique, > > and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any other > > charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the > > visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study > > crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will grab > > the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un- select > > the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead. > > After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the > > right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its > > current location and reposition all its handles. Very frustrating and > > takes the time and concentration away from the trading action. > > > > #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The horizontal > > lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on. > > They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on > > the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the left > > side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes errors > > in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely > > unacceptable behavior for trading. > > > > #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have the > > magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two peaks. > > Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand > > handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced to a > > new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak (this > > is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that is > > off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak > > you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line to > > the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up > > placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place > > now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. > > > > #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, there > > is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the > > handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets moved > > to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This wastes > > valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong bar > > to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. This > > is an annoyance. > > > > And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend lines > > on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute view, > > the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven help > > me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these > > wrong bars. > > > > There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues affect > > you. > > > > Best regards, > > Dennis > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ > > > > For other support material please check also: > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1510 - Release Date: > > 6/19/2008 3:21 PM > > >
