Thanks Dennis, I was just curious about what other software you were using.
Dave --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave, > > > I'd like to know from the original poster what software handles > > these "problems" because AB has been the best software I have used > > after many years of many different charting programs. Other programs > > might be easier to use to start, AB does take more time to learn but > > well worth that extra time. > > I am not suggesting that I would rather use another program, I am > saying that I HAVE to use another program against my will for doing > things I want to do in AB. I only want to use AB because it is a > wonderful product. > > But since you ask, the program that I use to draw many of my study > lines is thinkorswim's (free with account) charting/trading > applications --they have two charting programs. They have their own > problems but not the same ones --like no magnet mode, and it is > written in Java so it is slower than AB. > > In TOS you select a study with a right click, then it is active and > you can make any adjustments with the left mouse only to the selected > study. A click not on the selected study deselects it. Thinkorswim, > like AB is a customer oriented company and I really appreciate good > customer service from both companies. TOS releases a new feature > version of their desktop trading program every month on a fixed > schedule --no betas AFAIK. When I point out bugs, it is usually fixed > in the next release. I am sure they have a number of programmers > working on the program full time. > > BR, > Dennis > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:17 AM, dave_88_1961 wrote: > > > Just a thought, > > > > This might be a dumb solution but when I have a lot of studies on a > > chart and they overlap making it hard to choose one to change I put > > them in layers, unclick the study layer that overlaps and change the > > one I want. Click the layer back on and you can look at all of your > > studies again. > > > > I use layers also because somtimes I don't want too many things > > cluttering up a chart at one time. How many times does a FIB study > > cover everything else. > > > > I'd like to know from the original poster what software handles > > these "problems" because AB has been the best software I have used > > after many years of many different charting programs. Other programs > > might be easier to use to start, AB does take more time to learn but > > well worth that extra time. > > > > Dave > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" groups@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello,o > > > > > > Regarding #726 - > > > It respects the selection but clicking means CHANGING selection. > > > If you want to access properties of selected study without > > changing selection > > > just use Edit->Properties menu or define keyboard shortcut for > > that for fast access. > > > > > > If all studies are put in the SAME place, how AmiBroker > > > can tell which one you mean when you are clicking on given X,Y > > point? > > > Do you know how it works in any software? > > > It detects X,Y co-ordinates that you just clicked, then it detects > > > which studies exist under given point. If more than one exists > > under the > > > very same point, it picks first one. > > > The only alternative that could be implemented is to pick the last > > one > > > instead of first. > > > > > > As for the rest - that would need to be checked. > > > > > > B est regards, > > > Tomasz Janeczko > > > amibroker.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dennis Brown" see3d@ > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:12 AM > > > Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs... > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use > > only > > > > a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade > > only > > > > single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading > > systems just > > > > in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the > > traditional > > > > chart trading that is offered by many brokers. > > > > > > > > I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a > > very > > > > basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting > > > > programs. > > > > > > > > However, even though the fundamen tal operations are there (and > > I think > > > > potentially better), the interface (either design or > > implementation > > > > bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this > > product > > > > for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In > > fact, I > > > > need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same > > > > ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB > > would > > > > be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been > > going > > > > on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. > > > > > > > > I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the > > > > last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to > > me when > > > > they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I > > have > > > > actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a > > while -- > > > > hoping these things would be fixed first. > > > > > > > > I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same > > bugs, > > > > but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz > > knows that > > > > this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher > > > > priority on getting the study charting to work properly. > > > > > > > > Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others > > on the > > > > suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones > > that > > > > cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple > > operation > > > > that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates > > frustration and > > > > emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the > > line > > > > drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the > > trigger > > > > point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are > > costing you > > > > profits (not the nice to have pre tty things) than please add > > them to > > > > the conversation. > > > > > > > > #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. Often > > > > several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points. > > > > Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common > > pivot > > > > point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more > > > > important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is > > easy > > > > to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is > > unique, > > > > and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any > > other > > > > charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the > > > > visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study > > > > crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will > > grab > > > > the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un- > > select > > > > ; the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it > > instead. > > > > After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the > > > > right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its > > > > current location and reposition all its handles. Very > > frustrating and > > > > takes the time and concentration away from the trading action. > > > > > > > > #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The > > horizontal > > > > lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on. > > > > They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on > > > > the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on > > the left > > > > side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes > > errors > > > > in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely > > > > unacceptable behavior for trading. > > > > > > > > #890. Study handles chan ge when off screen. Lets say you have the > > > > magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two > > peaks. > > > > Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand > > > > handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced > > to a > > > > new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak > > (this > > > > is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that > > is > > > > off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the > > peak > > > > you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line > > to > > > > the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up > > > > placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place > > > > now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. > > > > > > > > #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, > > there > > > > is a thin "shadow" line that show s which bar you have dragged the > > > > handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets > > moved > > > > to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This > > wastes > > > > valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which > > wrong bar > > > > to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. > > This > > > > is an annoyance. > > > > > > > > And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend > > lines > > > > on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute > > view, > > > > the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven > > help > > > > me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to > > these > > > > wrong bars. > > > > > > > > There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues > > affect > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. > > > > > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > > > > > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ > > > > > > > > For other support material please check also: > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
