Dennis,

I agree that having the information for free would be better, but I have found 
that there is no such thing as a free lunch. By having a pay site, the people 
who are working to keep the site current would get compensated for their work. 
Probably not what they deserve, but at least some compensation. All the help on 
this forum would still be available on this forum in whatever form that is 
being used, but it would also be available on the user site in a user friendly 
form.

I have about 10 web sites. I now how hard it is to keep a site up to date. With 
a product like AmiBroker, the task is almost overwhelming. I also think that it 
would give Tomasz more time to concentrate on improving AmiBroker because 
someone else would be keeping the manuals and help areas current.

Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dennis Brown 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Help Manual





  Tom,


  I am answering you here to get this into the right thread.


  It sounds interesting, but I believe that the UKB could support the ebook 
idea or even broken up into smaller sections.  Once the initial heavy lifting 
is over, I would guess that it would not be hard to find volunteers to update 
it with just the new stuff.  I would hate to see a paid subscription site model 
for this --it just seems like it is admitting failure of the community which is 
so good about sharing freely.  I would not object to contributing to the 
initial work that would be free to all.  Of course that is what the UKB is 
supposed to be for.  


  However, I would be happier if there was some way that we could have an 
AmiBroker UWiki to compliment the AmiBroker UKB for this kind of work since it 
fits that model so much better.  Open to the community, but only up to date 
license holders would have edit access (as a way to control access to those 
with a vested interest in its integrity --or perhaps only trusted authors 
access like the UKB.  Another option would be to have a site like you mention 
but only up to date license holders would have any access as a way to support 
AmiBroker and perhaps gain support from Tomasz since there would be a direct 
benefit.  


  Lots of possibilities.  It warrants more consideration.  The thing is to fill 
a need of one segment of the community as easily as possible.


  Best regards,
  Dennis



  On Aug 30, 2008, at 5:30 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Dennis,

    What I envision is a site for AmiBroker users. It would contain an 
Amibroker manual in an ebook form, an AFL manual in an ebook form, a glossary 
in an ebook form, links to all the AmiBroker info. maybe a revision of the 
AmiBroker AFL terms with a more easily understood definition with more samples, 
a list of AFL programmers who will do programming, a forum for questions and 
answers, and anything else that would help users get the most from AmiBroker.

    This would be a membership site with an annual fee. Of course, Tomasz would 
have to approve and I would suggest he raise the price of AmiBroker and include 
a year's membership in the site. The new AmiBroker user would up to date easy 
to use manuals and information and Tomasz would not have to devote as much time 
to support and up dating manuals.

    This is just a quick idea of the possibilities.
    Tom
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dennis Brown
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:23 PM
      Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker AFL Glossary project


      Tom,



      I don't think I quite have the full understanding of your vision.  I 
believe Tomasz would need to support the idea (at least not object to it) 
because of the amount of proprietary material that would have to be referenced. 
 I think it should be discussed in its own thread.  I could support it 
personally if it fills a need and does not fracture the community.






  On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


    To have a manual that is complete and current would take a lot of time and 
effort not only to write the manual, but to also keep it current. I would 
suggest that if someone wants to take the trouble to write and update the 
manual, they could have a pay site with the manual on it. They could charge a 
nominal annual membership fee. Then the members could have access to the manual 
all year and the writer or writers would have a least received some 
compensation for their effort. 

    I realize that this would not be a big money making effort, but it would be 
helpful to the members and provide some compensation to the writer. It could 
even be presentated as an ebook which could be downloaded. The members would be 
able to get an up dated ebook as changes, corrections, and additions are added.

    I think that if the annual membership was reasonable, enough people would 
subsribe to make it feasilbe. I would be glad to provide help with a web site 
and producing the ebook.

    Just my humble suggestion,
    Tom

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