What is the full AC secondary voltage of the tranny, 6 or 12V? He may have been attempting a doubler or tripler circuit and you got it with parts missing or miswired. If one diode was across the relay coil it is to prevent back EMF. A 24V relay will usually pull in around 16-18V.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution


With a single 1N4007 and a capacitor you will have a filtered 1/2wave
rectifier. It should charge to .9 time the 24V. That should be OK.

You could use 4 1N4007s in a bridge and not use the capacitor.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
"Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
----- Original Message -----
From: "JT Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution


Nope Bob, this guy definitely only had three 1N2069's in parallel -
two cathodes to one anode connected directly to a 6.3V tranny.

I'm not looking to put it back the way he had it, I'm putting it back
the way the schematic shows it with a 1N4007 instead of the 1N91 shown
(already have in my junk box) and a filter cap.

I'm just trying to understand how he was getting the 24V relay to work
with a 6.3V tranny.

- JT

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Bob Macklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Connecting diodes in parallel does not really effect the current like
> connecting batteries in parallel. The diode with he lowest forward > drop
will
>  handle most of the current.
>
>  But if you really had diodes connected with anode to cathode you don't
have
>  a rectifier. That configuration is used in voltage limiter circuits.
>
>  Got to Radio Shack and get some 1N4000 series diodes and use them for
>  rectifiers. You only need one for a 1/2wave rectifier. Or 4 connected
in a
>  bridge for a full wave rectifier.
>
>  Are you sure the ones you have are not connected in a bridge circuit.
There
>  would be 4 diodes. And 2 of them would have the cathodes connected
together.
>  The other 2 would have the anodes connected together.
>
>
>  Bob Macklin
>  K5MYJ
>  Seattle, Wa,
>  "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "JT Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
>  <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution
>
>
>
>
> > As a follow up to all this talk..
>  >
>  > The person who did this mod, was rectifying the power to this 24V
>  > relay with three 1N2069's in parallel with 2 cathodes facing one
> > direction and the other cathode facing the opposite direction. > These > > were wired to a dedicated 6.3V tranny he also added. Any idea why > he
>  > would have done this rather than using the 24V tap on the filament
>  > transformer specially there for a 24V relay?  I measure roughly 26V
on
>  > this tap so I would assume the tranny is fine.
>  >
>  > --
>  > JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH (FN42gx)
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