Start from scratch and build a tripler using the 1N4007's you mentioned and 150-220MF caps. Put a diode across the coil after its finished. Also use a 10-20K bleeder on the PS output, 2-3W is sufficient.

Carl
KM1H

----- Original Message ----- From: "JT Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution


Carl: 6.3VAC with three 1N2069's across the relay, 2 facing the
opposite direction from the other with 150 uF of capacitance.

- JT

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:14 AM, jeremy-ca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What is the full AC secondary voltage of the tranny, 6 or 12V? He may have
 been attempting a doubler or tripler circuit and you got it with parts
missing or miswired. If one diode was across the relay coil it is to prevent
 back EMF.  A 24V relay will usually pull in around 16-18V.

 Carl
 KM1H



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
 <[email protected]>


Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution


 > With a single 1N4007 and a capacitor you will have a filtered 1/2wave
 > rectifier. It should charge to .9 time the 24V. That should be OK.
 >
 > You could use 4 1N4007s in a bridge and not use the capacitor.
 >
 > Bob Macklin
 > K5MYJ
 > Seattle, Wa,
 > "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "JT Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
 > <[email protected]>
 > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:55 PM
 > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution
 >
 >
 >> Nope Bob, this guy definitely only had three 1N2069's in parallel -
 >> two cathodes to one anode connected directly to a 6.3V tranny.
 >>
 >> I'm not looking to put it back the way he had it, I'm putting it back
>> the way the schematic shows it with a 1N4007 instead of the 1N91 shown
 >> (already have in my junk box) and a filter cap.
 >>
>> I'm just trying to understand how he was getting the 24V relay to work
 >> with a 6.3V tranny.
 >>
 >> - JT
 >>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Bob Macklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Connecting diodes in parallel does not really effect the current like
 >> >  connecting batteries in parallel. The diode with he lowest forward
 >> > drop
 > will
 >> >  handle most of the current.
 >> >
>> > But if you really had diodes connected with anode to cathode you don't
 > have
>> > a rectifier. That configuration is used in voltage limiter circuits.
 >> >
>> > Got to Radio Shack and get some 1N4000 series diodes and use them for >> > rectifiers. You only need one for a 1/2wave rectifier. Or 4 connected
 > in a
 >> >  bridge for a full wave rectifier.
 >> >
>> > Are you sure the ones you have are not connected in a bridge circuit.
 > There
 >> >  would be 4 diodes. And 2 of them would have the cathodes connected
 > together.
 >> >  The other 2 would have the anodes connected together.
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >  Bob Macklin
 >> >  K5MYJ
 >> >  Seattle, Wa,
 >> >  "Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
 >> >
 >> > ----- Original Message -----
 >> >  From: "JT Croteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >> >  To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
 >> >  <[email protected]>
 >> >
 >> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:38 PM
 >> >  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Cap Substitution
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > > As a follow up to all this talk..
 >> >  >
>> > > The person who did this mod, was rectifying the power to this 24V
 >> >  > relay with three 1N2069's in parallel with 2 cathodes facing one
 >> >  > direction and the other cathode facing the opposite direction.
 >> > These
>> > > were wired to a dedicated 6.3V tranny he also added. Any idea why
 >> > he
>> > > would have done this rather than using the 24V tap on the filament >> > > transformer specially there for a 24V relay? I measure roughly 26V
 > on
 >> >  > this tap so I would assume the tranny is fine.
 >> >  >
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