* I want to release 0.95 NOW :
Jerome
Youness
* No, we keep the way we had before, release 0.95RC1, then RC2, then ...
and 0.96 for next year... (hoping we finish what has been pending for
0.95RC1)
Karol Krizka
* I want user's opinions
Youness
Karol Krizka
* No, we'll take the vote from the developpers as being the ultimate
decision.
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:27:50 -0500, Karol Krizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 20:12, Youness Alaoui wrote:
Ok, here's the thing.. I think 0.95 is really great and people will like
it ALOT (even with the glitches) especially those who don't know what a
CVS is...
I suggest we skip the 0.95RC1 release, we go directly to 0.95, we
"adapt"
the webcam wizard in order for it to work (I think it was already done..
who can confirm?) and we make sure the wizard is run on the first
"webcam
send".. also, make it available in the Tools menu.
We put up the new website, we change SF forum to the new forum, we make
great packages (klik, autopackage, win32, mac,
rpm/deb/tgz/whatever-else)
and we release 0.95... we wait about a month or two, just the time
needed
to fix all new bugs and all pending issues and we release 0.95.1
What do you think ?
I'm half half but I will on no. The 0.95 release has a lot of new
changes and
I dunno how much they are tested. Having an release candidate can bring
in a
wider audience, unless of course there are more cvs users than 0.94. We
can
then spend 2-3 weeks (a set period before release) fixing reported bugs
and
then just go straight to a stable release.
That's the thing, 0.95 is I think the most stable release we ever had
(0.94 was also stable, but not as much as 0.95 IN MY OPINION), I mean, I
never have any bugs, problems but I remember when I began working for amsn
and a few years later, we would always have at least 2 bugs a week...
So I don't think it's a real issue having the current bugs as they are
now..
Also, note one thing, if we release 0.95RC1, most people won't understand
what RC1 means, it might seem strange and that's it.. and then, they'll
see 0.95 is released and they won't get it as they already have 0.95 (RC1
but they don't know what that means so they consider it as being 0.95)...
don't forget how many n00bs use amsn every day.
Also, it will cause a problem with the auto-updated, it won't understand
0.95 as being newer than 0.95RC1...
if we release 0.95 now and then 0.95.1 in a couple of weeks/months, then
it's the same as 0.95RC then 0.95 ... in terms of release...
The major problem now is that we don't have the manpower to do all
that!!!!! everyone went into hibernation! noone is active, so we can't
keep it like that... I mean, if you look at the important 0.95 TODO list,
how many things were fixed in it lately ? none for the last month AT
LEAST... if we continue like this, we'll NEVER get a 0.95 release out...
The most important thing is also that the CVS version is widely used by a
lot of people, so we could assume it has been tested enough!!!
Jerome, I've seen your forum, can you tell us how many people downloaded
the latest 0.95 beta release ON MAC ? do you have any number ? if you
don't have all numbers, maybe just how many downloaded it using
bittorrent ? I don't know if you have access to these stats... anyways.
With the webcam feature introduced in amsn CVS a lot of people wanted to
"try out" cvs just in order to get the webcam working, so we have a lot of
users trying it each day now... almost every forum questions, or tracker
questions or mails, almost anything from the past months are about CVS...
can you tell me when is the last time you had to answer a question about
the 0.94 release ? I don't even remember what it looked like... and noone
talks about it anymore..
Anyways, that's my opinion and the reasons why I wanted to push 0.95 now,
before wasting any more time...
Thanks,
KaKaRoTo
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