On Wednesday 16 November 2005 20:49, Youness Alaoui wrote: > * I want to release 0.95 NOW : > Jerome > Youness Karol Krizka > > > * No, we keep the way we had before, release 0.95RC1, then RC2, then ... > and 0.96 for next year... (hoping we finish what has been pending for > 0.95RC1) > > * I want user's opinions > Youness > Karol Krizka > > * No, we'll take the vote from the developpers as being the ultimate > decision. > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:27:50 -0500, Karol Krizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2005 20:12, Youness Alaoui wrote: > >> Ok, here's the thing.. I think 0.95 is really great and people will like > >> it ALOT (even with the glitches) especially those who don't know what a > >> CVS is... > >> I suggest we skip the 0.95RC1 release, we go directly to 0.95, we > >> "adapt" > >> the webcam wizard in order for it to work (I think it was already done.. > >> who can confirm?) and we make sure the wizard is run on the first > >> "webcam > >> send".. also, make it available in the Tools menu. > >> We put up the new website, we change SF forum to the new forum, we make > >> great packages (klik, autopackage, win32, mac, > >> rpm/deb/tgz/whatever-else) > >> and we release 0.95... we wait about a month or two, just the time > >> needed > >> to fix all new bugs and all pending issues and we release 0.95.1 > >> What do you think ? > > > > I'm half half but I will on no. The 0.95 release has a lot of new > > changes and > > I dunno how much they are tested. Having an release candidate can bring > > in a > > wider audience, unless of course there are more cvs users than 0.94. We > > can > > then spend 2-3 weeks (a set period before release) fixing reported bugs > > and > > then just go straight to a stable release. > > That's the thing, 0.95 is I think the most stable release we ever had > (0.94 was also stable, but not as much as 0.95 IN MY OPINION), I mean, I > never have any bugs, problems but I remember when I began working for amsn > and a few years later, we would always have at least 2 bugs a week... > So I don't think it's a real issue having the current bugs as they are > now.. > Also, note one thing, if we release 0.95RC1, most people won't understand > what RC1 means, it might seem strange and that's it.. and then, they'll > see 0.95 is released and they won't get it as they already have 0.95 (RC1 > but they don't know what that means so they consider it as being 0.95)... > don't forget how many n00bs use amsn every day. > Also, it will cause a problem with the auto-updated, it won't understand > 0.95 as being newer than 0.95RC1... > if we release 0.95 now and then 0.95.1 in a couple of weeks/months, then > it's the same as 0.95RC then 0.95 ... in terms of release... > The major problem now is that we don't have the manpower to do all > that!!!!! everyone went into hibernation! noone is active, so we can't > keep it like that... I mean, if you look at the important 0.95 TODO list, > how many things were fixed in it lately ? none for the last month AT > LEAST... if we continue like this, we'll NEVER get a 0.95 release out... > The most important thing is also that the CVS version is widely used by a > lot of people, so we could assume it has been tested enough!!! > Jerome, I've seen your forum, can you tell us how many people downloaded > the latest 0.95 beta release ON MAC ? do you have any number ? if you > don't have all numbers, maybe just how many downloaded it using > bittorrent ? I don't know if you have access to these stats... anyways. > > With the webcam feature introduced in amsn CVS a lot of people wanted to > "try out" cvs just in order to get the webcam working, so we have a lot of > users trying it each day now... almost every forum questions, or tracker > questions or mails, almost anything from the past months are about CVS... > can you tell me when is the last time you had to answer a question about > the 0.94 release ? I don't even remember what it looked like... and noone > talks about it anymore.. > > Anyways, that's my opinion and the reasons why I wanted to push 0.95 now, > before wasting any more time... > Fain, you convinced me. I don't remember any bugs that get in the way of daily usage. Also I didn't know that the RC labelling will confuse the update notifier. I guess if any severe bugs are found we can just release a 0.95.1 version.
-- Karol Krizka
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