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On Friday 23 December 2005 15:06, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Lee????? where are you ?
> we're in release mode, I though you would 'spend all your time to get amsn
> the best it can be', so do it, where did you disappear to, I asked in HIGH
> PRI that you move all the files to the SF.net server, here are (again) the
> instructions :
> ssh -l clear_beast shell.sf.net
>
> > enter password
>
> cd /home/groups/a/am/amsn/htdocs/new
> scp site_backup.tar.gz:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ./
>
> > enter password
>
> tar -xzvf site_backup.tar.gz
>
>
> MAKE SURE YOU DO IT IN A SEPARATE DIRECTORY! htdocs/new, not directly in
> htdocs!
> this is high priority because the website needs to be tested on SF.net and
> not until the last minute!
>
> one last thing, make sure your files are readable, I found some files on
> the shell that have clear_beast as user, and no read/write permission for
> groups or others...
> so, please, as soon as you log in (and after the transfer) :
> chmod -R u+rwX,g+rwX,o=rX /home/groups/a/am/amsn/
>
>
> come on, Lee, you're talking about being serious, we have to work on this,
> and all that, but you're not able to do a minor thing like that, EVERY
> DEVEL is waiting for you, that's not team work.. release the source to
> SF.net servers so at least we can work on it too if you're too busy...
> you promised me that everything will be ready for december 23th, we're
> already december 23th, nothing is ready, we're not getting any help from
> your part...
> very important too, you're all talking about getting organized and
> everything, I'm asking you (several times already) to give me your TODO
> list for the website before it gets finished and ready.. you have given NO
> answer!! I had to create myself a todo list, trying to guess and all you
> did was to give feedback on some things.. you didn't add anything to the
> list...
> Also, one thing you should know is very important.. deadlines, planified
> work... I've read the irc logs, Sander asked you when the website will be
> ready, you said "I don't know", how come you give us such an answer!!! you
> SHOULD know! be professional for once, this is the time we need you...
> give us a detailed TODO of each thing that has to be done...
> for EACH thing in the tODO, give a time estimate, in minutes, hours, days,
> whatever is necessary, make it an estimate as close to reality as
> possible... (it should be everything done for tonight if you follow your
> promise)..
> for each thing, give a priority.. so we can drop some things.. we probably
> will drop the poll system for now as we have no time of making it perfect,
> nor test it (can't be there if it's not tested...)
>
> for the rest of what you said in IRC, you said one thing :
> Tjikkun:      then poll doesn't work
> beast:        yes it does, don't listen to youness he wouldn't listen to my
> response about it
>
> euh... did I miss something ? what did I say, what response you're taking
> about and what did I not listen to ? explain this to me, because I'm a bit
> surprised... everyone knows on the list that there are no surprises with
> me, if something is wrong you'll know it, but now, I am myself surprised
> you say something on me like that and I don't get what you're talking
> about...
>
> anyways, ANSWER ASAP!
> This is the first and final warning, sorry everyone, but I'm tired of
> waiting, our goal was for december 24th, if Lee hasn't finished and put up
> the website by then, I suppose we'll have to go without him and release
> amsn 0.95 on the old website :(
> KaKaRoTo
>
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:36:16 -0500, Youness Alaoui
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Removed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >>> Here's the TODO list for the website from what I previously had :
> >>>
> >>> 1 - waiting for Vivia to do and upload all screenshots to the wiki
> >>> (almost
> >>> done)
> >>> 2 - update wiki page for webcam (refer to one of my mails, I have it
> >>> flagged so ask me to forward it if needed)
> >>> 3 - review FAQ and set it in the wiki (didn't get time to read the FAQ
> >>> yet
> >>>
> >>> :S)
> >>>
> >>> 4 - finish up poll system for website (is it complete and 100% usable
> >>> ?)
> >>
> >> Usable, just a few minor annoyances which will be fixed once Diego
> >> sends me an updated version.
> >
> > yeah.. I guess so, I just don't know if it works because it seems  my ip
> > is blocked "already voted"...
> >
> >>> 5 - set everything up in the website, make sure all works and upload
> >>> to SF
> >>>
> >>> what I would add is :
> >>> Lee, please upload everything you have to SF into an htdocs/new
> >>> directory,
> >>> so we can already try it on SF servers...
> >>> Please update the skins/plugins/screenshots images in the website
> >>
> >> Have been updating... a few more left.
> >
> > yeah, I noticed that (winskin wasn't correctly shown though + some
> > others didn't have the correct screenshot) but now it seems it's good
> > BUT there are no screenshots anymore :P I guess you're working on it..
> > keep it up!
> > can you also please upload to SF servers ASAP...
> >
> >>> We need to add an Autopackage download for linux...
> >>
> >> Added, waiting for the correct filename and package upload to sf so i
> >> can provide a valid link.
> >
> > all files are uploaded to SF already.. the link is :
> > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/$filename?download
> > where $filename is the filename you want to request.. you can get the
> > list of all the filenames through my mirror :
> > http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/amsn/
> > so, if you want the mandrake rpm, you see in my server the list of
> > files, you find the mdk.rpm and insert the filename in the link it gives
> > you this link :
> > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn-0.95-1mdk.i686.rpm?download
> >
> > you can update the website now with the correct links..
> >
> >>> We have a 64bits section in the website for downloads... who wants to
> >>> do
> >>> all packages for 64 bits.. and IS it necessary ???
> >>> Update the website to make it integral... for the moment, there are
> >>> still
> >>> some links refering to the old site (Language flags on the right for
> >>> example)
> >>
> >> Fixed language flags.
> >
> > now, the langs don't do anything.. can we have language support for
> > tomorrow ? :S remove the languages until we have them working and until
> > we have the website translated... also, the links should redirect to the
> > current website with the ?new-lang=.. param...
> >
> >>> Upload all skins and plugins to the SF release system... (NEED a
> >>> list...)
> >>
> >> Yes! we need a list and we need to document all of this so we don't
> >> have to go through this next release period.....
> >
> > we have a skin maintainer, he'll provide the list, we're already
> > documenting all we need to do in a release
> >
> >> When adding links to the wiki, at least document them in the Pending
> >> Documentation Additions or add a link on the main page... it took me a
> >> while just to find the skin installation guidelines.  I don't have
> >> time to hunt for important things like this.
> >
> > pending documentation additions is for things to document, it's the TODO
> > for docs, it's not about links in the wiki.. if you want that, there's
> > somewhere a place to list all the pages in the wiki, it was really easy
> > to find btw, click in the wiki in the folder icon (or '+' sign) next to
> > the 'Wiki' item, then in the list, click on 'list pages'...  and the
> > skins install guide, you just need to do a search for 'skin'..
> >
> >> ~Lee
> >>
> >>> I think that's all FOR NOW... if anything is major, please add it to
> >>> the
> >>> list, if we have something minor, add it too, but we'll probably have
> >>> to
> >>> make sacrifices and have a half-perfect environment on the release..
> >>> (example, wiki for webcam could wait after the release before it gets
> >>> updated.. anyways, users get the last version with the link...)
> >>>
> >>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:17:03 -0500, Youness Alaoui
> >>>
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all, I tagges CVS today and created the debian package for 0.95..
> >>> > you can find the files in http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/amsn
> >>> > you can get the source files and create your own packages or the .deb
> >>> > and test it..
> >>> > anyone who creates the packages, please send to my personal email!
> >>> > we need :
> >>> > Mac .dmg (Jerome)
> >>> > RPM for FC4 and for mandriva (Phil)
> >>> > Linux/windows installers (Youness)
> >>> > Autopackage (Youness)
> >>> > Slackware (Thomas)
> >>> > Gentoo ebuild (Karol)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > the autopackage package is done but I don't like it, I'll modify the
> >>> > spec file (oh god, how can I do that :S) and create a new package...
> >>> > we need the doc dir to be created for amsn and icons and applications
> >>> > + symlink for amsn-remote and amsn-remote-CLI...
> >>> >
> >>> > Vivia, I'd like Thomas to do the package for slackware.. we'll
> >>>
> >>> compare
> >>>
> >>> > then, he's officialy the packager, has already done this and does a
> >>> > great job... he sent the first package for 0.95 (when we though that
> >>> > would be it) so I think he deserves to do it now
> >>> >
> >>> > any distro I forgot ???
> >>> >
> >>> > by the way.. I didn't study today, exam tomorrow, I'm fucked! just to
> >>> > share my pain...
> >>> >
> >>> > p.s.: We'll need a COMPLETE TODO list for what remains to be done
> >>>
> >>> before
> >>>
> >>> > we release : screenshots, website, anything...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks all for your work!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> KaKaRoTo
> >>>
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