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Hi Lee,

I'm not completly done with my finals yet ... but in one week or two
I'll be free to start reorganizing the wiki.

GrdScarabe

Lee Olson wrote:
> I've moved everything from the old NextReleaseTODO wiki page to the
> new OverallTODO wiki page :
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=OverallTODO
> 
> You can also find a link to it from the main wiki page.
> 
> Please take a few minutes to browse it and mark everything that needs
> to be removed with an asterisk as Vivia mentioned, or leave a note so
> I know what to move to the future TODO.
> 
> Thanks,
> ~Lee
> 
> On 5/3/06, Vivia Nikolaidou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite
>> > >outdated.  For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96).
>> > >
>> > >http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO
>> > >
>> >
>> > Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember
>> > correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to
>> date in
>> > the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might
>> > want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because
>> > they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page
>> > is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an
>> > Overal TODO list...
>>
>> I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list
>> though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't
>> start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us
>> adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating,
>> no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see
>> that item gone in the ML!)
>>
>> It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin!
>>
>> > >Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96
>> > >TODO.  Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO?  I know there's
>> > >an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN.
>> > >The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the
>> > >wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated?
>> > >
>> > It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation
>> > to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to
>> > select which ones are high pri enough for next release..  now the TODO
>> > is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the
>> > doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up,
>> > vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last
>> > time...)
>>
>> Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no
>> amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!!
>>
>> I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing
>> first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not
>> really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new
>> webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using
>> reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!)
>>
>> [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :)
>>
>> > the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think,
>> look
>> > at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that
>> > file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the
>> > original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of
>> > that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I
>> > wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to
>> > delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case
>> > someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info...
>>
>> good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker
>> (Ouch, that's also outdated)
>>
>> > about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern
>> > time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out
>> > how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the
>> > special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some
>> > users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature
>> > using [TODO]..
>>
>> lol, hadn't noticed :)
>>
>> > Also, that TODO list is basically for developers I think, it shouldn't
>> > be public.. and shouldn't be used as it is, if you look at it, you'll
>> > see some stuff marked as [DONE] and others marked as [TASKED], that
>> todo
>> > list is there to help the lazy ones to easily add something they
>> have in
>> > mind before the connection timesout in their brain... then all the todo
>> > items in there are moved to the SF task tracker, some devels were
>> > assigned some takss, and they are working on it in there and it
>> seems to
>> > go well this way. I think we should :
>> > 1 - either move all the TODO list into the task tracker
>> > 2 - use the TODO list AND the task tracker at the same time...  just
>> >     like we do now...
>>
>> I go with 2
>>
>> > >The TODO file included with aMSN needs to be cleaned and up to date if
>> > >we want to continue to use it, otherwise, we could just include a link
>> > >to where it can be found on our wiki and remove all the old.
>> > >
>> > I agree
>> >
>> > >How does everyone else deal with the TODO? I think having the wiki
>> TODO
>> > >along with the link to the ircTODO is the best idea, we just need to
>> > >make sure it's up to date.
>>
>> Exactly....... I agree 100% :)
>>
>> > I thnk noone deals with the TODO :P well, Vivia will tell you more I
>> > guess since she's the one making sure it's up to date, she did a great
>> > job working on amsn for 0.96 and cleaning up the TODO (by cleaning the
>> > todo page and by removing the bugs/feats)
>>
>> Yes but I'd love it if someone could deal with this now as I'm out of
>> energy. Lee, can you do it? :)
>>
>> Thanx,
>>
>> Viv
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