Op maandag 5 juni 2006 22:07, schreef Philippe Khalaf:
> Hi,
>    Well after seeing that long thread about languages, it kinda feels
> like there is no solution but to keep the GUI in tcl/tk. We will never
> agree on a new language, we already know tcl/tk, and we have a whole
> lot of GUI code already written in TCL/TK.
I think there is another solution. XML2GUI is probably going to work (I am 
working hard on that) so that would mean a Gtk-based engine written in C and 
the actual gui written in XML. If we want to keep the 'logic' part in tcl/tk, 
we'd just need a connector to pass on the events.
Information about the XML2GUI plan will be in the wiki when there is really 
something to tell (i.e. when there is a beginning of a real design instead of 
just a few experiments).

> The back-end (connection manager) could be written in anything as it doesn't
> really matter or doesn't even need to be an "amsn only" project. It can be
> started by someone else, and contributed to by us, or vice versa. In any
> case there are several outsiders to aMSN interested in such a project so
> it's not an issue.
I agree to this.

>
> Regards,
> Philippe
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:32:10 -0400
>
> Philippe Khalaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >    I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are
> > getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be
> > busy. In any case, I have sent a similar email before but I am doing it
> > again. Now Telepathy is at a different stage of it's life. It's
> > actually working now and a project like aMSN2 can be started. In case
> > you guys don't know it, Telepathy is getting big and it will soon
> > become an integral part of the Gnome desktop, and hopefully KDE. If
> > aMSN2 was to be started, it would consist of 2 main projects :
> >
> > - An MSN connection manager for Telepathy (a kind of protocol plugin) :
> > This is where the aMSN people can be very helpful since you all have a
> > rather good knowledge of the MSN protocol and can write this easily.
> > This of course can be written in a different language than TCL. Any
> > language that has DBUS bindings will do (C/GLib, C++, QT Objects,
> > python, etc).
> >
> > - An aMSN2 GUI. Brand new GUI. The cool thing about aMSN is it's
> > feature list. The aMSN devels have come up with cool features that are
> > actually useful and not just stupid little gadgets. This can be
> > transported into a brand new UI that uses Telepathy, and it can be
> > written with another toolkit like GTK or QT. A new UI can be started
> > immediately using the Jabber connection manager (called gabble) while
> > the MSN connection manager is being worked on.
> >
> > In other words, aMSN2 would be a completely different project, but I
> > believe aMSN is what it is not because of tcl/tk and not because of it's
> > pretty code :P but because of the features and feel that it has, and
> > that is a direct reflection of the community that works on it. If the
> > feel of aMSN can be maintained, it doesn't matter what back-end it uses,
> > or what toolkit it's written in. It can only look better anyways :)
> >
> > There are a lot of positive things about moving on to Telepathy :
> > - Put some life back into the project.
> > - New languages and new skills to learn. I'm talking C, C++, GLib, GTK,
> > QT, D-BUS or anything else we want.
> > - New toolkit, new look.
> > - Solid and well designed framework.
> > - Getting in sync with the future. Telepathy is big now. We have a
> > GUADEC main talk, we got 2 summer of code entries and we financially
> > support the project. Any UIs or projects associated with it
> > will also be big (aMSN is already big and can take it's popularity with
> > it).
> > - Transparent support for other protocols (jabber, oscar, etc).
> > - Full audio/video support with Farsight.
> >
> > I will let you come up with any drawbacks or bad things about it.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in taking this direction. Tell me right now! I
> > can definitely help out with managing such a project and designing
> > anything that needs to be designed. Obviously I am very close to
> > Telepathy and can help with anything in that regards as well.
> >
> > You guys want a spark here is your chance. Take it or leave it the
> > Telepathy train is taking passengers but isn't slowing down!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Philippe
> >
> >
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