On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:44:24 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I totally agree with you... Users have to use perfect softwares and not  
> buggy
> drivers...
> Anyway, I try to know where is the bug... Why ? Because with that it's  
> the
> first time I hack in the kernel level... And I like that ;) It's so bad I
> haven't a pwc compliant cam. Else, I already had tracked the bug and  
> sent a
> patch to Luc Saillard... (Doesn't open source means bring your help to  
> all
> the edifice ?)

Cool! congrats! :)

> Phil
> P.S. Totally OT but should we apply the holly_wood patch about DPs in
> directories ?
>

I think so, yes, but only in /trunk, it should never go in the 0.96  
branch. Please include this info in the commit log so we don't forget...


> Le Monday 12 June 2006 22:54, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
>> not only that, but we'd need to shift the responsability... we really
>> should stop being so nice to the users, look at what happened lately in
>> the forums because of AA fonts and tcl/tk 8.5... he was a stupid bastard
>> but let's take his example....
>> why bother if the problem isn't ours ? If users complain, we just need  
>> to
>> say "it's a driver bug, not an amsn bug, don't bother us", EVEN if we  
>> know
>> the solution to it. We had so much work to do because of pwc, I'm fed up
>> with it now.
>> If a user has Tcl/Tk 8.0 and has a bug, we won't say "ohh, you need to
>> modify this and this line", no, we'll just say "upgrade, you can't, then
>> it's your problem", it's a requirement, in the same way a program can
>> require Windows XP to run instead of Windows 3.1 for example.
>> Now, if we let Luc Saillard know about this issue, he might fix it and
>> provide a new version.. so when people complain, instead of telling them
>> to fuck off, we'll just say "upgrade your driver"...
>> The thing is, what you said below is not true, you say "we cannot assume
>> all users will upgrade", oh yeah ? then it's their problem, it's their
>> choice, not ours, they didn't want to upgrade, so it's not our fault...
>> also, the users will know how to upgrade and will have root access...  
>> you
>> know why ? because the bug is with v4l2 not with v4l, and the only pwc
>> driver that supports v4l2 is Saillard's driver, which is unofficial and
>> not shipped anywhere, so if a user has the problem it means he has
>> Saillard's driver which means he installed it himself, which means he  
>> has
>> root access and he knows how to install it. If I'm wrong, then again,  
>> it's
>> not our problem.
>> Do you agree with me ?
>>
>> KKRT
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